Politics The Joe Biden Thread

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  1. donkiez

    donkiez Well-Known Member

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    Trump didn't even order enough vaccines. Pfizer didn't take government money. Not sure how you can attribute any credit to him at all. I'm not saying this as a Trump hater either, I actually thought that the vaccine roll out might be his beg moment, since they had been betting everything on the vaccine and dissmissing methods to reduce spread. I have been floored at how bad Trump botched this whole thing.... If he hadn't been so spectacularly incompetent then he would have easily won reelection.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/cov...ffer-for-more-doses-says-scott-gottlieb-.html
     
  2. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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  3. andalusian

    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    What surprised me was not that he is incompetent - it was clear as day from day one - what surprised me was how vulnerable the system was to the combination of incompetent president and the 3 monkeys (no see, not hear, not talk) GOP which enabled him.
     
  4. donkiez

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    His strategy really was just divide everyone as much as possible and do everything possible to invalidate anything that made him look bad. It's been so successful that the lemmings still won't get vaccinated or wear masks, even though all of Trump's inner circle were among the first to be vaccinated. It's laughable and frightening at how gullible these people are, to the point of endangering their own health and the people they care about. There's plenty of stories of these sheep dieing from Covid and getting pissed at the doctor's for telling them it's not a hoax.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Pfizer wasn't part of OWS

    The roll out had multiple bungled attempts. Biden and crew had to completely restructure it. If the rollout was so seamless, why wasn't it done quicker.. if it was already ready like they said.

    Biden had to clean up the other guys mess. Period.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    He’s not obviously.
     
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  7. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    massive wave of vaccine production the last administration set in motion???

    Massive!?
     
  8. jonnyboy

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    The shots people are getting right now are a result of funding and production that occurred under the last administration. This will be the case through May. After that it’s all Biden.
     
  9. donkiez

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  10. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    If we’re being honest, this is just politics as usual......I personally don’t see it as much if any different than Trump taking all the credit for Obama bringing the economy back. Trump just goosed it with some shortsighted deregulation and reaped the political benefit. No current presidential administration has ever given the past administration (especially if it was the opposing party) credit for anything good whether they deserved it or not.........all I personally give a shit about is that vaccines are available and that they are effectively and efficiently delivered. I grudgingly (very grudgingly) give Trump credit for cutting the red tape to get the vaccines approved. But if we continue being honest with ourselves, any and every president faced with the same horror show would have done the exact same thing. Funny how Trump (and followers) reject blame for failures but just gotta have a standing ovation for actually doing the right thing on occasion......
     
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  12. calvin natt

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    If Trump wasn’t President then what would have happened? The President (not trump) would have sat around eating bon bons and wouldn’t want to get a vaccine to the public? I don’t get it. Everyone around the world was working on a vaccine.
     
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    Basically everything that helped us during the pandemic happened despite Trump not because of him. He was THAT bad. Defending him and nitpicking Biden over the rollout is pretty laughable at this point, especially so if you don't even want to vaccinated yourself.
     
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    Massive! YUGE!

    I heard Trump created the vaccine.

    Trump deserves no credit in any way related to COVID, other than helping its spread.
     
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    50 days in office without a press conference...during a pandemic. Pretty groundbreaking stuff. It’s been 100 years since a president just decided “fuck that” when it came to answering questions from the press. If I were one of his handlers I’d be a little nervous about him going off-script also, but how long can they actually drag it out for?
     
  16. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That trump didn't order. So to give him credit is borderline silly. And one of them had nothing to do with OWS
     
  17. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I see you got the talking points.

    It's also 50 days without an idiotic tweet, or golf games.

    But yeah, go ahead and complain about 50 days as you sat silent for trump's almost year long drought
     
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    Trump wouldn’t wear a mask....during a pandemic
    Trump demanded states open...during a pandemic
    Trump tweeted about dumb shit daily...
    He’s got a press secretary who answers questions and doesn’t lie and make shit up every day.
     
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    We’ll have to circle back to that.
     
  20. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Biden and Harris didn't trust it until it was tested better. It's now been tested quite a bit more I think.
    Here is a quote from Johns Hopkins:
    "The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has granted emergency use authorization (EUA) for two COVID-19 vaccines. Both have been tested in large clinical trials."
    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/hea...eases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe
    Gong. He is the President and there is zero doubt about that.
     
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