Interesting Article on Damian Lillard, plus my own thoughts on Lillard

I feel like it's too hard to have a all encompassing list of pointguards. I think Dame could be a top 5 scoring point guard, but guys like Magic, Stockton, Kidd, Nash were just much much better passers.

 

Dame is already better than Stockton. I know John has the stats, but he was never the best player on his own team and really never made an impact in the postseason. I think Dame would wreck Stockton if they played in either era.

 

If Dame wins a chip or two he would pass Curry and Nash like you said but he'd also pass CP3, Kidd and Zeke, hell if he won a chip as the best player on the team, he should pass Stockton too.

 

Don't agree.

 

Elaborate? Hmm. Many of those ahead on that list are not as good as he is.

 

Pass Curry? No way. Not enough time left. Steph has two MVPs and 3 rings.

 

Honestly I think Nash was overrated. When he was in Dallas he was really just a solid player. Not a star. His numbers were very ho-hum if you compare them to his later stats in Phoenix.



And then you go look at Phoenix, where they put him in the perfect system. His numbers were massively inflated in the SSOL system.

 

Both Nash and Steph are incredibly overrated. Steph's first MVP should have gone to LeBron and that second MVP, he wasn't even the MVP on that team KD was. Nash should have lost one MVP to Duncan and the other to LeBron.

 

I don't think Steph is overrated. He's hands down the most efficient shooter in the history of the league. The guy is insanely good at shooting the ball. With that said, could you have plucked him out of Golden State and put him on a shitty team and had the same success? No chance in hell. Without Draymond and Klay I don't think he's nearly as capable of putting a team on his back. Conversely, Dame could be put on literally any team and still do what he does. He gets zero help on our team at times.

 

I know Steph is the greatest shooter ever but you obviously get my point. He is a guy that has had the right people around him to make him look like more than just the best shooter, since they traded Ellis.

The fact is whether you're a LeBron hater or not he nailed it on the head a couple of years ago when talking about MVP and the perception of value in the NBA. Is it about your team's success and being the best player on that team, is it about having the best empty statistics or is it just about being the best damn player. I think Dame has some catching up to do but I think he has the time to show that he is the best damn player outside of Magic, on that list.

 

Stockton never made an impact on the postseason?? What?!?!?

He has a WCF series winner at the buzzer to put the Jazz into their first Finals.

 

Get on the "Dame Train"

 

could be, but if so, it's a 'strategy' designed for a treadmill, not a championship

the last 10 champions rankings in defense were: 3-5-11-2-10-1-3-10-4-8

6 of 10 were top-5 defenses. the four that weren't were two repeat champions (Golden State, Miami) who likely coasted a bit thru the season; the Cleveland team that won in 7 against the Warriors a year after they lost the finals. And the 8th ranked defense was the Dallas team that was at the right place at the right time

in an age of offense, a champion still needs defense. Portland is 29th, four games into the 2nd half of the season that Stotts set the goal as being in the top half of the league in defense. Blazers were 28th when he set that goal. A cynical person might suspect the story was spin designed to shift some of the blame off the coach