Blazers interested in Aaron Gordon

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  1. Minstrel

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    Trent and a first round pick? Hood would be more salary, but would be a negative asset, weakening the deal since he still has another year on his contract. So I wonder what else they could attach that might make it work (that isn't Covington).
     
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    Hood is non-guaranteed for next year, essentially an expiring contract. It would have to be Hood + Trent + either Jones or Collins. Sending Collins out would put us into the tax, while sending Jones out would not. I'd rather not give up DJ.

    Depends on what else we have planned in the buyout market.
     
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    Possibly Jones?
     
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    Oh okay, I thought his salary was guaranteed next year. In that case, I can definitely see a deal coming together. I'd also prefer to send Collins out, but it depends on whether the Blazers are determined to duck the tax this year or not.
     
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    By all accounts, we don't want to be a repeater next year. If we send out Collins, we'd have to do some workarounds with Giles/Blevins to duck under. We'd only be like 500k over. Not impossible, but would limit us in the buyout market.

    I can be convinced to send Jones out if we can open up room for someone like Otto Porter or George Hill. Porter coming off the bench as our 6th man would be insane.

    Dame/ CJ/ Ant
    CJ/ Little
    Roco / Porter
    Gordon / Melo
    Nurk / Kanter

    that is scary in the playoffs with the amount of size and versatility.
     
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    So if Olshey doesn't get this trade done is his job on the line?
     
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    I hope that Olshey's job is on the line regardless. If the team and the coach that the guy has put together don't get us to the WCF and win us at least a game... especially if we go into the playoffs with every player healthy besides Zach, then Olshey has had too much time and his ass should be out of here. No scapegoating Terry. Fire Olshey first and let his replacement decide what to do with this team.

    On a side note given the reports of how much Olshey likes Gordon, if he doesn't get the deal done and another team doesn't grossly overpay for him, it will point once again to Olshey's most glaring weakness. In a market where you claim you can't get big name free agents, you can not afford to overvalue your assets the way Olshey has shown he does.
     
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    if Trent is truly the 'young asset', Portland is in kind of a bind they'd need to wiggle out of. Hood + Zach + Trent puts Portland about 800K below the tax line. But it would also put the Blazers at 12 players, and as I understand it, that would be illegal. They can drop to 13 players for a max of 2 weeks, but not 12. So they'd have to sign somebody before the trade is made, and I'm not sure a 10-day contract solves the riddle....maybe

    Portland is at 30 games left, and a minimum salary is pro-rated. So, 30/72 would suggest a vet minimum deal would be around 42% of the 1.621 vet minimum scale or around 675K. That would just fit, but Portland could not stay out of the tax when they added the 14th player

    however, according to the CBA FAQ, a pure minimum salary for somebody who has no NBA experience is 900K. Pro-rated, that would be around 360K and two of those guys would keep Portland out of the tax...barely

    the 'better' trade cap-wise, would be Simons instead of Trent. That would add nearly 600K in margin bringing that space up to 1.4M. That would mean the Blazers could add 2 veterans on minimum contracts

    and I might be wrong about all those assumptions
     
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    RoCo is a long way from doing some of the things Gordon did to the Nets the other night. I like some of what RoCo does, but Gordon has a larger arsenal.
     
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    He does have a choice to resign with the team that trades for him though. In essence, if you’re not in a large market, acquiring Gordon will end up being a 1-2 year rental at best.
     
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    And with his size and foot speed he can guard the likes of Lebron and Kawhi better than anyone on our roster.
     
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    Gordon is an elite glue guy.

    On our team he’d be Draymond-esque.
     
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    He played college in Arizona & he's been in Florida as a pro, why would he want to come to not only a small market but a dreary one at that? Maybe he would do what DJ did, heard about the bad weather but thought he could at least try it and see?
     
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    I think if we did Gary, DJ and Hoodie for Godon and MCW that should satisfy both sides. It does have us taking on an extra 500k in cap space which would take us out of the buyout market but I think it would be more fun to try and sign the next Duncan Robinson or Derrick Jones from the G League than anyone that's reportedly being bought out.

    Dame, CJ, RoCo, Gordon, Nurk, Melo, MCW, Enes and Nas is our nine man rotation while Ant, Gile, Blevins and some G Leaguer would fight to get some spot PT or prove themselves worthy of expanding the rotation.
     
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    MCW would be an upgrade at back up 1 and can play two if needed. He's a decent defender as well. Id much rather include Simons versus Trent.
     
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    In theory I would want to switch out Trent with Simons. That being said, we need to get value for Trent if Neil has made the determination that he is keeping CJ. Unless Neil is planning on spending 90M per season on three guards. I do not think Gary can play anything more than spot minutes at SF, especially with the size of Dame and CJ. It would make us the shortest starting 1-3 in the league and that's not good. If Neil plans on trading CJ on draft day and keeping Trent then yeah we better include Simons but then they'd probably want a pick as well.
     
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    I'd much rather have Ennis than MCW. He's cheaper too
     
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    We are moving into the time of year where Oregon has the best weather in the country, stretching until September or October. In the past that was always the off-season but with Covid the schedule has shifted in our favor, not sure how permanent that is though.
     
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    When its nice here its nice for sure. July through September/October. Im a native Oregonian and have lived in, sunnier climates throughout my 70 years and it was nice. I never could figure out when was younger why there were snow birds, now I know.
    As an active outdoors guy, not just hunting and fishing but bike riding, hiking, water I appreciate a nice climate in the winter. Hawaii will do.
     
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    watching nuggets magic closely, and gordon isn't doing too much but i see it. he makes smart decisions and can actually initiate offense either out of the high post or on the roll. he brings skills at his size that we don't have right now.

    also, fournier is playing really well. hopefully denver goes after him instead of Gordon and clears the way for us to get him
     

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