Notice Is Dame Overated?

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  1. Labinot41

    Labinot41 Well-Known Member

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    Yes
     
  2. JoshuaHall

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    Dumbest thing I’ve read in my life.
     
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    i asked several questions in the op. Did you answer any of them before you went on your .. whatever?

    Olshey has threads about him and comments in every thread questioning him.

    go comment in those threads about Olshey deficiency. Its been best to death.

    but if i ask questions about dame and what he may need, you turn it into a blaming dame.
    The OP title is a question for christs sake.

    I would try answering the questions asked before you just make claims that were or I am putting blame all or part on Dame?

    Some people see that something is wrong with the team and that includes something wrong with Dame.
    And to answer your last question?

    no he doesn't demand a firing he makes hits of not being happy like Nurk did.
    Ill go even further to say that to not also hold Dame at least a tiny bit accountable, you are as much a Dame homer as you claim others to be an Olshey homer.
    No one is letting Olshey skate like you claim. Just read the damned threads and you can see that...
     
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    oh really? Lol


    Asking what Dame may need? Asking if he may be overrated is the dumbest thing?

    i take it you don't read much at all? ;)
     
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    There are not many star scoring pg’s that can lead a team to a championship. Curry had big time help, Irving cant without help from other super stars.
    Even MVP Westbrick couldn’t. We need at least one lock down defender in the backcourt.
     
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    Yeah, the player that was a legitimate MVP contender before hurting his knee and hand needs to be held more accountable.

    most of your “rant” wasnt even related to Dame as a basketball player, but as dame as an “executive” or “player-GM” which is NOT his job or role, by the way.

    What a joke.
     
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    Like nearly every player... he's overrated by some, underrated by others.

    He's far from a perfect player and by far our best player. I'm going to continue to enjoy everything he does well because I'll surely miss it when he's gone.
     
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    Asking if Dame, a perennial all star and borderline MVP candidate is overrated based not on his skills as a player, but on his player-GM skills, is indeed the dumbest thing I’ve ever read and lacks any sort of logical thought or analysis.

    I read a lot. And say a lot of dumb stuff myself.

    this takes the cake.

    ur just trying to be an edge lord and u know it
     
  9. Orion Bailey

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    huh????
    Lbj doesnt play that role? Kwahi hasnt? Kd?
    The list can go on and on regarding mvp forcing their team to be accountable.

    all mvps. And they put pressure on the gm and coach.

    what is a joke is your stating he is mvp caliber but then not holding him to that standard that other mvps have with regards to controlling the team.

    what a joke... lol.
    You do know its a players league right?
     
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  10. Orion Bailey

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    also perennial all star? Hyperbole much? Almost half of those he was in because some one else was out due to injury....

    Lets keep it real....
     
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    Same here
     
  12. Orion Bailey

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    Then why even comment? Lol

    there were questions asked. But then you wouldnt know...

    lol. Unreal.
     
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    Correct

    No

    Yes

    Yes
     
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    Apparently asking legitimate questions.... doesn't go over well with some. Stotts reacts much the same in others conferences.
     
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    Now you can see the backlash I get when I say that lol
     
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    Well Dame is the leader in many ways. He not in charge of getting players sign here that Olshey job and not responsible for drawing up the game plan. But the players are responsible to excute the game plan and if they go outside the game plan that's on the players and the coach. Now is Dame over rated that answer is I don't thank so but he does have flaws in his game now that's as player that's plays ever night hurt or not. But is play constitute how much he make this year year but next year I think he over paid. But I think no one playing basketball is worth 40 million a year.
     
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    Ive never placed him top 5 either because of his D.

    My main question/concern though is, lets say we get him help(I asked if that is what he needs) but the coach still plays the help wrong and Dame continues to support and defend the coach? When does it became a detriment to winning, his career and trying to bring a ring to Portland?

    If MVP caliber or top 20 players(Jimmy Butler) are able to control their front office and force them to make hard decisions to improve the team, why isn't Dame also doing this? Why does he give unconditional support to a coach most can see is letting things slip away? And how is that not a slight on his rating? Part of Dames rating is how good of a leader he is, but then the same people who want to get snarky in this thread and act as if the OP is an idiot, refuse to acknowlegdge this and the points I brought up?

    Why is it a bad thing to ask why he is so loyal to this coach and does it hurt his overall rating as aa player?
     
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    Im torn.

    I watched Clyde.


    I'm ready for a parade.
     
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    But im asking questions( even if the response from some is as if I made statements) Im not saying the team sucks, is trash, Or anything of the like.


    Im simply asking if Dame is overrated based on him being an MVP caliber player, compared to what other MVP caliber players do both on the court and how they flex to thier team to make them better.

    I cant help it if some around here only read what they want to read, dismiss half my post and then go on some rant about how Olshey never gets blamed, or some stupid shit like that. or even better. Commenting with snark at the OP while fully admitting not reading anything... thats preschool shit man.
     
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