Rumor What's going on in Portland?

id say its not all the evidence, its all the reports that omit certain things from the equation, skewing the costs.
Weve been through this. I do not believe the reports to be accurate for a few basic reasons the reports dont address. Not the ones ive seen anyhow.

 

Tiny Homes, Mobile homes and/or travel trailers on acreage would work but there would have to be basic rules and amenities available. There could actually be different categories of villages where people could spring board back to society, if they wanted.
You cant have these inter city encampments popping up near schools or on roadways or even in front of business's.

 

But they arent having to pay for a roof over thier head. Id turn my nose up to it as well.
The homeless is a multi faceted issue.
Housing them will only enable them.
They need other help first before we think they can jsut have a roof and turn productive.

 

Partly true imo, but also if nothing is done to prohibit or provide options then cities are a magnet. You dont see this as bad in some cities across America.

 

I'm sure Idaho will love to subsidize those counties the way Portland does now...

 

Enabling them to what? Just getting them a roof saves us money and cleans up streets and public spaces. How is that not productive?

Getting them help beyond that (which evidence shows is also less expensive, more effective, and longer lasting for people who have homes) is just icing on the cake for society.

 

All a direct result of the government intervention into our economy...
End the FED!

 

ill message it to ya. This place is ridiculous....

 

see above

and for thecrecord thst demeaning comment about must be nicecin my home???

ive lived on the streets more than once.
Maybe dude should stop judging so much and ask questions. But then i see the people who liked that posts and it makes me realize how ridiculous this place is.
Seriously. The oens who push thier opinion the most agressively are the same ones who simply cannot have a mature discussion without belittling the opposition.
And i remember a mod getting on me here because” weee all grownups”



riiighhht.
Im out of this discussion. Il have it in private with anyone who can be mature enough to not assert thier differing opinions without being insulting.

smfh.....

 

I agree with a lot of what you say. There has to be a level of commitment form the person wanting to rebuild or re-enter society. There are those that dont know what commitment is and do not care about things but one day to the next. I talked to homeless from time to time and I hear that there are to many flakes hurting others amongst the camps. Those could be sent to some far off island.

 

I’m gonna be sorry for wading in but……..there is NO easy solution to the homeless problem, if there is any solution at all. “Homeless” takes in all kinds of factors; mental health issues, lost jobs, lack of education, lifestyle preferences, etc, etc, etc. Having volunteered at my local food bank, along with dealing with a family member with mental health issues I’ve met all kinds of homeless people, community activists, recovering substance abusers, assorted volunteers and counselors and so on. One thing I learned for certain is that one size does NOT fit all.

First, for those struggling with mental health issues, society provides little if any real assistance to the individuals or their families. When it comes to nut cutting time, social services ALWAYS take the first and biggest hit. And it’s only going to get worse as long as the Republican Party exists. It’s always going to be “someone else’s” problem. So it’s hard to get mentally ill individuals off the street unless and until they can get mental health assistance. Good luck with that…….unless you have a great deal of money and an individual suddenly wakes up and decides to seek help on their own. About the only “easy” resource is food (at least in Oregon).

Second, you can’t force a mentally ill person to do anything unless and until they are a danger to themselves or others. Until then, they pretty much have free rein, and families just have to stand back and watch. And pray they won’t be held liable if the mentally ill individual ends up wreaking havoc.

Third, it’s actually shocking how many homeless, mentally ill or not(?) do NOT want to get off the street and refuse housing assistance. This isn’t just some urban legend. Some people are fine with the “carefree” lifestyle. They don’t have to pay rent, taxes, utility bills and so on. Or if someone is going to help them off the street, they’ll only participate if it meets their own criteria (usually unreasonable expectations versus what assistance is actually available). More disturbing than the number of mentally ill homeless is the actual number of individuals who are homeless specifically because they ARE “lazy” and aren’t interested working an actual job. They want society to give them a living.

So anyone looking for easy solutions is pissing into the wind. Personally, I think the very first step is a seriously beefed up mental health care system that provides mental health care to individuals and families who can’t afford it on their own. That HAS to be the first step. But until society decides to care about those who truly can’t care for themselves the problem is not only going nowhere, it’s going to get worse.