OT Vaccines Are Satan

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  1. Serbian

    Serbian Well-Known Member

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    Spoken like a true *SlyPokerDog*. Checkmate. A virus with survival rate of 99.98% but here you are proud “ If I die because of experimental covid vax with no long term safety data its ok i did the right thing”
     
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    Your link is a video message, not a peer reviewed paper.
     
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  3. Serbian

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    If you listen to that link The Immunologist of canada tells you that its Been officially “ Peer reviewed” so the official paper is coming out i do not have officiall paper just give it couple of weeks and im sure peer reviewed will be found online they just did it one week ago.

    Click on link below go listen to expert panel on Covid vax concerns natural immunity vs vax immunity it discusses many key topics which will never be brought to light in mainstream media including covid treatment of ivermectin thats it works and studies show it works but governments have banned it why? Because they only want to push vaccines nothing else
    https://trialsitenews.com/covid-19-expert-panel-the-path-forward-for-canadians-trialsite-webinar/

    ClicPanel of Experts discuss
    Bonnie A Mallard (PhD)dle, PhD
    Professor of Immuno-Genetics
    Department of Pathobiology
    University of Guelph.

    Byram W. Bridle, PhD
    Associate Professor of Viral Immunology


    Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD
    Professor of Epidemiology
    Department of Chronic Disease Epidemiology
    Yale School of Public Health

    Steven Pelech, Ph.D
    President & Chief Scientific Officer
    Kinexus Bioinformatics Corporation


    Paul E. Alexander, PhD
    Health Research Methodologist
    Evidence-Based-Medicine
    Department of Health Research
    Methods, Evidence and Impact
    McMaster University


    H. C. Tenenbaum DDS, Dip. Perio., PhD, FRCD
    Professor of Periodontology, Faculty of Dentistry,
    Professor of Laboratory Medicine and Pathobiology, Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto
     
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  4. riverman

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    I lived through SARS in Taiwan in 2002 -3 when I was teaching Jr High in Taipei.....if you think masks are big pharma fear factor halloween costumes you're a fuckin' idiot. The last person I take advice on covid from is someone who got covid and preaches about demons and conspiracy when the globe is facing a pandemic.....I worked at a medical college for 6 years and my friends from there know a lot about the virus.all recommend getting the vaccination..I've had 4 heart procedures in 3 years and my doctors are all vaccinated....nurses all vaccinated...if you think a microbiologist or heart surgeon is a sheeple for doing the responsible thing and getting vaccinated...I've got a bridge to sell you...anyway the insults you toss around at people are the same here as they were on the basketball thread.....zero respect gets zero respect....this topic could be discussed in a civil way but apparently that's not in your wheelhouse. SARS first killed doctors and nurses and flight attendents first in Taiwan ..no govt is going to kill off it's first responders to sell medicines to the public. News flash....people who got covid are probably in for long term side effects concerning their internal organs and lifespan ....in other words getting the virus may really fuck with you later on in life....it has affected my granddaughter...she now has asthma like conditions. New research has also shown that the vaccines are showing great properties at combating other conditions like HIV and cancer....I'm really glad my circle of family and friends are all covered and able to move about now..good luck with your exorcism of Satanic meds....might try snake wrangling while you're in the swamp
     
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  5. Serbian

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    If you had SARS 1 then you should know you have natural immunity. The latest study found sars survivors have immunity 17 years later. Do not confuse traditional vaccines Vs MRNA based vaccines first time used on humans in history. With Zero long term safety data. As of now we have less than 12 months of total safety data on Humans using MRNA vaccines. Anyone who takes Pfizer or moderna vax is in phase 3 trails until 2023. Do not confuse the subject. Stick with the subject
     
  6. SlyPokerDog

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    reuters.com

    Fact check: A 2012 study did not use mRNA vaccines or result in animals dying from disease
    Reuters Staff
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    A video which uses a research paper to argue that mRNA vaccines will make people fatally weakened to other diseases makes untrue claims about the study, according to the paper’s lead author.

    The video, which has been viewed over 140,000 times on Facebook, carries the headline: “Why people may start dying a few months after the Gates vaccination”.

    It opens with a screenshot of the abstract of a 2012 paper entitled ‘Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus’. That paper is visible online here and here. The study researched vaccinated mice that were later exposed to a live SARS virus.

    The speaker in the video says: “What happened in this study is that the animal models, after being challenged, got very sick and that some of them died. So that the last line of the abstract says: ‘Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated.’” (Timestamp 1.06)

    The recommendation for caution is indeed the final line of the study’s conclusion, as published on the above link, but the lead author of the study, Prof Chien-Te (Kent) Tseng (here), told Reuters by email that the animals in the study did not die.

    He said that immunised mice “generated strong and highly protective antibody responses which fully protect immunized mice against lethal infection”.

    He said that when the animals were exposed to the live virus, they developed eosinophilia (a high count of a type of white blood cells) but, despite this, they “found that mice survived the lethal challenge without showing any readily noticeable weight loss and other signs of illness.”

    The speaker in the video goes on to suggest throughout the video that the findings of the study are applicable to RNA vaccines (here Timestamps 0.18, 1.49, 2.43).

    However, Tseng, said the vaccines they had studied in the 2012 paper and the mRNA technology used in the COVID-19 vaccines are “very different vaccine platforms.”

    Tseng also said that, while people should always be cautious about the safety of new vaccines, they should not be alarmed by his paper.

    He wrote: “I feel our earlier report has raised that safety issue which has been taken seriously within the vaccine developers worldwide by different Institutions, including the World Health Organisation and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.”

    VERDICT

    False. Animals vaccinated in the 2012 study referred to in this video did not die when exposed to a live virus and the research did not involve mRNA vaccines, according to the lead author of the study referenced.

    This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work here .


    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...t-in-animals-dying-from-disease-idUSKBN2A22UW
     
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  7. Serbian

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    Again missing the whole point. There were 5 animals studies from 2002-2012 you are citing one btw ; FACT CHECKERS are disqualified because of self intrests. Fact checkers are sponsored by Bill gates foundation fact checkers also said the virus originated naturally but now we know strong evidence supports Lab leak man made
     
  8. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    So let me get this straight……..Donald Trump had to move all the way to Serbia just to get some kind of social media account?? Can’t we follow Twitter’s example, for God’s sake????? But I guess he hasn’t started rehashing the election on here yet……so there is that………
     
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    I didn't get SARS....I wore a mask and washed my hands...it was the law in Taiwan...you couldn't go to work or anywhere without getting your temp taken and without a mask...I'm not confusing vaccines....I'm trusting the doctor here who saved my life and following his advice....I did get a flesh eating bacteria and was quarantined for two weeks with massive antibiotic injections that finally killed it..that was in the 90s ...I've had my life threatened a few times....doctors and medicines saved my life at least 3 times....and being smart about it this time, I didn't get covid
     
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  10. Serbian

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    Trump is the “ Father of the covid vaccine “ coming from Trump himself. Why would i trust trump??! He is just another controlled opposition working for big pharma. Nice try buddy im not republican or democrat they are all on the same team dividing people and making them believe they dont work for same masters. 70% lobbyist $$$ that goes congress is from BIG PHARMA. They can not be trusted. And i live in USA not serbia my ancestors are serbian thats all there is to it
     
  11. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Boy did that go over your head…….
     
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    I know 3 long haulers. I don't know anybody who has any side effects from the vaccine.

    Covid-19 has killed 1 out of 600 Americans. And most Americans haven't even caught it.

    There is no evidence that the vaccine has long term side effects and many people have been vaccinated longer than a year.

    Also, flu rates plunged in every country. Including those which got control of covid-19 early and had very few deaths.

    The reason is that flu is far less contagious than covid-19.

    So the same precautions which limit the spread of covid-19 (hand washing, distancing, and masking) are far more effective at limiting the spread of the flu.
     
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    Do you have a doctor that you regularly see?

    If not, you should.

    If you do then go and talk to them. Tell them your concerns.

    Ask for an antibody test.

    You say you've had covid, verify that and see how your immune system is doing.

    Based on the antibody test ask for the the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, it's not MRNA based so it should satisfy your concerns.
     
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    Trump is simply the father of bullshit
     
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    Again incorrect. The CDC admited last month that at least 1/3 people who died from covid did NOT Die from covid itself but had underlying health conditions that actually killed them. My sister is RN in baylor hospital she told me “ We have patients who are dying from chronic heart failures or need liver or kidney transplant but because they tested positive for covid with 30 days the death is listed as covid death and hospitals get 39k$ , but covid did not kill them
     
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    We're not on Twitter or Facebook. Just post a link to the peer reviewed journal entry.
     
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    That's a lie.
     
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    I brushed away the nurse's hand as she tried to give me the shot. A vision of a werewolf had formed in front of my face. Then she barked like Sly.
     
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    Another lie.
     
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  20. Serbian

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    A Antibodie test will not always show if you immune from covid because young and healthy people can have strong T cell responds where antibodie doesn’t even show. And i have been sick twice in about 20 years once with FlU and last year i had covid but again my covid was very mild the flu i had 10 years ago kicked my ass much harder than covid
     
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