If CJ were to be traded, who are we most likely to get?

I think what both of us are saying is that whatever bench we can come up with, a starting lineup of Dame, Norm, RoCo, Simmons and Boucher and whoever else we can get on the bench would be pretty fucking cool.

 

Blazerkor what do you think of this? Gives us cap relief as well as a ton of switchable wings. Between all these young wings including Little one of them is bound to break out. Turner is a huge upgrade over Nurk imo and Warren is a good way to ensure we have a starter quality SF between him, Little and Bridges. You just can't ever have too many fast athletic dudes who can shoot between 6'5 and 6'8", not in this league.

CHA still has an F ton of wings somehow and gets a 1st round pick from us plus a young Center to build around with LaMelo and scary Terry. Indy gets CJ and can then get rid of LaVert who it seems they have cooled on, but who still has a lot of trade value.

 

There is also this version, but I'm not sure CHA can do a sign and trade as part of a trade? This can be two separate trades of course in either the version above or this one where we get a back up PG so Ant can play his natural position of shooting guard. less of a log jam at the 2-4, but you know I LIKE a log jam at the critical wing positions. In the above I'd play Bridges or Warren at backup SG occasionally. Here you wouldn't have to do that.

 

Either one of these would be good if we can't get Simmons. Yeah it would be cool to have those players but none of them and I don't think collectively that they add up to the difference maker that Simmons is.

 

Simmons is my top target as well. I think the above trades make us significantly better and with pieces we can package to get a Simmons level guy while also being very good right now. Simmons is absolutely my number one target.

 

I'm hoping that Wiseman/ 7th rumor is false. But I don't think GS loves Wiseman as much as they have pretended to.

 

Not a chance, and not a chance for George either.

 

I would not.

 

You've already RANTED about this while randomly ALTERNATING lower and UPPER CASE. I want Siakam MORE than SIMMONS. You WANT Simmons. We've ALREADY had THIS discussion, quit TRYING to REHASH it.

 

I know some are against Ben Simmons and while i can see the reasoning that some are making and i agree with it to a degree but IF Ben Simmons this summer is really trying to change his game and such then it is possible with Billups and a star like Dame then it could work. I am not advocating for the trade but i can see the reasons why people might want to see it happen. Also not to mention it might be the most realistic option at this time so while might not be ideal might be the only real play IF philly is looking to get rid of Simmons and ditto with Blazers open to a CJ trade.

 

What 3-&-D big will you be able to trade Nurkic for? Likely none that we have the assets for. He doesn't have much value across the league.

We don't need a 7apg point forward. Give me a guy who can play off Dame and Nurk and then if either of our bags have the ball, then can make the right play.

Siakam is close to Simmons defensively. Dude is a terrific defender, can playmake as well, but can actually hit an outside shot and stepped up in the biggest moment of his career instead of shrinking.

 

Wanted to add one more thing -- If Ben Simmons could turn into a Scottie Pippen type player who could have a solid Mid game and passable 3 pt shooter ( 25 to 30 % ) and such it would be worth taking a gamble on Simmons BUT that is a ton of what if's and such. I personally think Ben Simmons is the perfect Robin to Dame again IF he can change his game but i will concede it would be a gamble but at this point a gamble might be the only play.

 

...isn't Siakam out until at least January 2022? Seems like that puts even more pressure on the team in the meantime.

 

Baynes? Baynes was horrid last year.

 

December-January. With Dame, Powell, Nurk, and Roco, I think we'd be fine.

 

I actually think we can play Boucher in a starting lineup with Simmons and RoCo. He is the 3 and D big I'm interested. I don't even necessarily want Baynes, I'd rather them send over one of their two second rounders and eat the rest of Nurk's salary.

 

We're not getting Boucher for Nurkic and a 2nd, we'd likely have to give up assets despite Nurkic having just as much talent as Boucher and potentially being a guy who could blossom under Billups. That's why I'd rather keep Nurkic and get a guy who fits with him and Dame better (Siakam) instead of irant1976's guy.

 

Simmons is the guy a lot of people want because he's such an amazing defender and distributor. I don't know why you think that Siakam fits so well with Nurk that we should take him and don't think the Raptors would take the flip side of that coin for a guy they barely started last season.

I like Dame, Norm, RoCo, Simmons, Boucher better than Dame, Norm, RoCo, Siakam and Nurk but don't get me wrong for even a second... if we ended up with Siakam for CJ and picks I'd be happy, unless it was in a three team deal that showed that we could get Simmons without the picks. Anyway we'd be lucky to have Siakam and a re-signed Norm instead of CJ and you're right if we did make that happen there wouldn't need to be a move made with Nurk to make the starting lineup work.

 

Toronto could get more back a package for Boucher that they'd value more: if they trade him they'll be looking for young players and picks, not Nurkic.