OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

I won't need to go back to anything.

 

ABM keeps repeating same story. This is the same spa that was picketed after fake story.

 

This isn't new. Those who read or saw The Help, remember Miss Hilly and her sanitary initiative? The book was fiction but that was real, Black people have different germs and they are dirty and disease ridden so if public facilities were desegregated white people would be endangered. In the 70s it was Equal Rights Amendment. If ERA was passed we would have unisex restrooms. Not true and buses and planes already did but if ERA ratified women and girls would be assaulted in unisex restrooms. In the 90s it was gays in the military. Apparently gay folks wanted to join the military for the sole purpose of staring at straights in showers. Military could take on armies but we're terrified by gays. Now it's trans people supposedly exposing themselves in women's restrooms.

 

It's from Sly's Daily Mail source, so it's gotta be real.

 

But, it's not the same story.

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/mic...hat-we-have-lost-our-corporate-minds-n2592497

Radical Transgender Activism Is Proof Positive that We Have Lost Our Corporate Minds

Just think of the upside down world in which we live today. Women and girls are relaxing in a California spa when a man walks in, naked and fully exposed, in full view of these mothers and daughters. Yet when a complaint is issued, the spa, along with the editorial board of the Los Angeles Times editorial board, defend the man. Do we need any more proof that we have lost our corporate minds?


A man commits full frontal indecent exposure in the presence of women and girls, and the LA Times chides the women for being upset while defending the man, since, after all, he’s actually a woman. And, you know, women can have penises too. That’s right. And men can menstruate as well as conceive and give birth to babies. That’s also why we must talk about “chestfeeding” rather “breastfeeding,” since the latter term would offend nursing fathers.

Have we not lost our minds?

Listen to this woman’s personal account of what happened:

“I went to the Wi spa in Los Angeles, California, and while I decided to go around the different jacuzzis, I decided to take a nap. After my nap, I got up and I wanted to get water. As I was walking, I noticed something that really was disturbing, something that caused me to feel that I must have been transported into the men’s locker room, the men’s Jacuzzi area.

“Yeah. A man, a full-on man, fully naked, completely exposed, showing his testicles, his penis. Slightly erected.

“I was appalled at what I saw. This was not normal. . . . Little girls are there, their mothers are there, other women are looking about, and they begin to put their robes back on them. I went to management. Management did nothing. I even told the guy he should leave, ‘This is not right,’ and he didn’t leave. We had no help whatsoever. I did not know what to do.

“Something has got to be done. This is not fair. It is not right. We as women have rights to be safe in public spaces, and they are being violated by men going into women’s spaces, claiming to be women to gain access, so that they can exercise their perversions.

“This is not right. We must do something about it.

“On June 23, I experienced what no woman or little girl should ever experience. I experienced what used to be called flashing or indecent exposure, which would result in a man registering to be a sexual offender for life.”

Yes, this used to be considered perverse and even illegal. But not today. Today, this is a “right” to be celebrated. And it is the women and girls who have a problem. They are the ones who are messed up in their thinking. The onus is on them to change.....

 

If you can't distinguish/differentiate the element of modesty and/or morality here, then I hate it for you.

 

All these supposedly different stories are word for word identical, always involve a beard, although every trans woman I have ever known removes facial hair. Always involve exposed penis in a situation where people aren't normally exposed, a little girl, and never happen to ordinary women, only ones with close ties to right wing media and antigay organizations.

 

OK, just for the sake of understanding your viewpoint: If a transgender woman were to walk into a similar situation (a so-called traditional women's locker/pool area whereas most/all of the women and children are naked) with their junk hanging out in all its glory, would you see a problem with that? I certainly would. It's the main reason I maintained there should be some type of signage at the entrance of the facility. Issue solved.

 

Me thinks the word has gotten out in the trans community about Wi Spa's inviting policies - whether they're published/stated, or not.

 

We had a gay man in our unit up at Ft. Lewis, Washington back around 1969. No one denigrated him. We were all just curious. I remember him answering a thousand questions. And that was the Army.

 

I don't think ABM is "working on the trans thing" at all. Sounds more like trying to justify transphobia.

 

And that statement is full of crap. As an alternative example, nude beaches aren't allowed in Oregon unless otherwise posted. I think that's the case. Why is there signage of such? Should we just go ahead and allow people to be naked in public? If not, then why not? What would it be called - nakephobia?

 

When someone enters a spa that advertises clothing optional they should expect to see bare bodies.

Not a word about Trump's anti trans executive orders which President Biden overturned. Not a word about uptick in violence against trans people, especially trans women of color. Or state laws forbidding parents and children from deciding in consultation with medical specialists best health care options. Or laws requiring children who want to play sports having genitals inspected by school authorities. Just endlessly repeated story about penis. You sure do have a thing about penises.

So yes, I do question commitment to understanding.

 

You probably should avoid flying anywhere..there's a security guard in a room looking at you and your wife's naked body after the security scan...and you don't even know those people....people are naked in public....read a National Geographic magazine about indigenous tribes....your fears of nudity are just your own fears of your own reactions to nudity....control yourself man! What you really fear is getting aroused by nudity ...not nudity itself...were you offended by the film Schindler's list when prisoners were paraded around nude? Did you boycott Speilberg movies after seeing them? How do you handle the art world filled with nude depictions of human anatomy? I'm calling out this selective outrage as nothing more than personal inhibition

 

As I mentioned, let's just eliminate the need for clothing....anywhere! You in?

 

no need...I'm the security guard who scans the film for hidden weapons...won't change my world at all but in other words...I'm not threatened by human anatomy...