Zombie Damian Lillard to request trade in coming days (nope, he's not.)

I think Dame has 3-4 years left where he'll be in the MVP conversation if he has the right team around him and 2 more years where he's at an all star level. So if we can get a Ben Simmons for CJ and picks, then get Norm to re-sing, then get a good return for Nurk and sign Bobby Portis on the taxpayer MLE... we have a contender right there with 2 or 5 years to spare.

Dame, Norm, RoCo, Simmons, Portis, Nurk trade, Ant, Nas, DJ... contender

 

and what happens if the 3 pick doesn’t pan out, then what? It’s too much of a risk:.I would rather ride with Dame for another 4 years and give it our best each year to win a ring, and then after those 4 years dame will surely be gone and we can do our rebuilding then.

rushing to trade dame now is a move that could also very much backfire

 

"RC2, you asked me if I was in the basketball business or the money business. Neither. I'm in the empire business

 

im sure dame lillard dreams about having a statue outside "moda center" and thats gonna happen for sure if he remains loyal for his entire career, but if he leaves, maybe he still gets one, but im not sure it would be a sure thing

going elsewhere to chase a ring, which there is no gurantee he will win, sounds risky, when he can stay where he is, remain loyal, try to win it here and even if he fails, hell get a statue and be considered a legend and hero forever

in my mind (im not a player, but im thinking like one), that matters and its worth more than a chip elsewhere

 

You insulted the intelligence of other posters. What does that have to do with the mods? Your post is still up.

Yes, the Bucks did win the finals without blowing it up. They got Giannis through the draft. They traded for Middleton and Holiday.

I've said multiple times. I want to keep lillard. I want us to make a go for it trade. Lets make it happen.

Absent that, how did the Warriors win a title? They drafted Klay and Barnes and Curry and Green (2nd round). The other 3 were all lotto picks setting themselves up to win their first title.

The draft is THE best tool for a small market to get talent. The process isn't a for sure thing, it just gives us an opprtunity to acquire lots of top talent.

We are not close as is. Lillard is getting older. So go for it or blow it up.

The bucks went for it by trading for Holiday.

 

I do think that Dame even at 31 has at least 5 years of high caliber ball left if he can stay away from injuries. His health is excellent and takes care of his body.
Dame has been on record sayoingn that if I go ring chasing and it doesn't work out and get traded elsewhere, thats something he wants to avoid.

 

They fired Sam Hinkie and his successors (including the burner guy- remember that?) fucked it up. Imagine that they take Tatum, Fox or Donovan Mitchell instead of Fultz. Imagine that they DON'T trade Mikal Bridges for Zhaire Smith? They were THISCLOSE.

You give yourself more chances to hit this way, and it's the ONLY way to stockpile assets for the trades you need to finish the job (see: Bucks, Jrue). Now, OKC is going TOO FAR, imo, but let's see how Presti's crazy pick-hoarding plays out.

 

But is Olshey really the guy to build something like that? He hasn't been great in the first round... And his free agent targets usually end up as busts as well. He lost Aldridge for nothing, and now he's pissed Dame off.

 

Or you could try this season and trade Dame next season for a similar haul.

This is a good draft. But still, Dame will be just as valuable next season.

 

all true....for instance:

11 POR Meyers Leonard
35 GSW Draymond Green
39 DET Khris Middleton
40 POR Will Barton

10 POR CJ McCollum
15 MIL Giannis Antetokounmpo

19 DEN Malik Beasley (traded in the Afflalo trade)
27 TOR Pascal Siakam
36 MIL Malcolm Brogdon

10 SAC Zach Collins
13 DEN Donovan Mitchell
14 MIA Bam Adebayo
19 ATL John Collins
22 BRK Jarrett Allen
23 TOR OG Anunoby
26 POR Caleb Swanigan
29 SAS Derrick White
30 UTA Josh Hart
42 UTA Thomas Bryant
45 HOU Dillon Brooks

now, this isn't my usual Olshey-bashing. The point is there are always opportunities in the draft to build a contender. Even without being a trash team with high lottery picks, Portland has had chances to not only build a contender but a dynasty. I mean, Giannis and Dame together? c'mon

they aren't going to do it thru free-agency. And with the poor asset base that Olshey has developed (bashing mode back on) they are unlikely to do it thru trade. It has to be the draft

 

Yep. Dame and Giannis keeps me up at night. I love watching both those guys and they would be perfect for each other.

Either we are all in on Dame and make the trades sacrificing our future by using picks and a player to get another star, or we blow it up and acquire as many assets as possible to try to draft multiple stars. Anything in the middle is a waste of time for Dame and fans that want to see a championship.

 

I stated I don’t think it’s intelligent for fans to want to trade Dame now, that’s my opinion. That was not name calling lol.

Yes you are bring up the rare trio of Golden state that was all drafted by there team.

I will also add the Spurs to that list too, Duncan, Parker and Manu.

But those are the only two teams in the last how many years to actually draft players that formed a championship. Can you name some others? also, why didn’t you mention two huge pieces to that first GS championship that was huge additions. Bogut was traded for Ellis, and Iggy who was the Finals MVP was signed the summer before.
It’s very rare, and yes I would go that route too but not when we have our franchise best player who is the loyal to Portland and wants to win a ring. Players like Dame don’t come around often, we should try our best till the end to win with him , point blank. You also risk the chance of someone we drafted wanting to go to a bigger market as well. So many what if’s. It’s not worth the risk imo

 

Well it could go the other way, 9 teams before us passed on Cj. 5 other teams passed on Dame before us..what you Posted there is in hindsight, it’s always easier to look in hindsight and say what if after.

 

No. You insulted other posters intelligence. Just own it bruh.

Then go all in with Dame. Make a trade for another star. Don't waste his time when he wants to win and run it back.

That's the point. If you're not going to do that they are wasting everyones time. Rebuild or go all in.

The thunder made the finals and were considered a contender for awhile because drumroll.....they drafted multiple stars.

 

wut?

of course it was hindsight. Hindsight is one of the most valuable commodities on earth. It's why if you burn your hand on a hot stove you're unlikely to do that again

I wasn't criticizing....what I was doing was showing the value of having draft picks. The opportunities have been there for Portland to build a dynasty. They just missed. That does not mean however, that those draft picks had less value because Portland missed. Not at all. What it means is that value would have been insane if they had hit instead of missed

 

Relying on stupid teams to give them an all star seems like a bad strategy. I knew if the Bucks won it (during a year and playoffs with half the stars out hurt) it would immediately be “see they did it we can too”, when in reality go luck at the last 30 years. The Bucks are a unicorn.

 

Giannis is a better player than Dame.

Khris middleton is better than CJ.

Jrue Holiday is better than Normal Powell.