OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

If the virus is in a vaccinated person, it will adjust to whatever prevents the virus to work. Life finds a way.

That virus then infects others, both vaccinated and unvaccinated. It amplifies when it effects the vaccinated since it has to adjust to survive.

 

The Delta variant is causing more breakthroughs among vaccinated people, and it’s been shown that even asymptomatic vaccinated people shed enough virus to infect others. But, yeah, vaccinated people aren’t likely to get sick enough to need hospitalization or die, so from that standpoint it’s kind of overkill. OTOH, if vaccinated people don’t wear masks in public spaces it’s pretty much a given that the unvaccinated won’t either. I’ll wear a mask if it helps push those who choose not to get vaccinated have a better chance of not getting sick. Wish they would get themselves vaccinated though.

 

It doesn’t work like that from what I’ve read. Viruses mutate all the time but it’s totally random. Most mutations don’t confer any advantage to the spread of the virus. Those die out. Once in awhile a random mutation does happen to give an advantage that lets the virus spread more efficiently and that strain can become dominant. The more mutations that happen the greater the chance that one that causes spread will occur. The more virus a body is producing, the more likely an advantageous mutation will occur. Overall, vaccinated people don’t produce or shed as much virus as non vaccinated people so, presumably there’s less chance of producing a variant that causes problems, but it’s certainly not impossible.

 

Why would you wear a mask for people who won’t even wear one themselves? I mean, I’m probably on the other side of the argument than you and even I find that logic to be a tad ridiculous. You’re gonna have to live life for yourself one of these days. Do you worry about people you don’t know wearing seatbelts? Fuck it.

 

We don't know. That's just my thoughts on the matter. The vaccines will produce short-term gain, but in the long run, they will be worse for us.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-viruses-evolve-180975343/

 

In a pandemic where we’re dealing with a virus that can mutate and, potentially launch variants that can render vaccines less effective, this battle isn’t about the individual rights or individual survival. Each person infected becomes a biological experiment that can cause problems for everyone. We all have a stake in ramping down the spread. Beyond that, when the virus is spreading rapidly, hospitals fill up and make it hard for people with other emergency conditions to get care. And on a basic level, I guess I just give a crap about my fellow human beings. If someone chooses not to wear a seatbelt, they are putting only their life at risk. That’s dumb on their part, but I can’t effect that decision in any practical way. I can wear a mask and make a small impact on virus spread though. If it makes it harder for an anti-vaxxer to cheat on a mask mandate, so much the better. More bang for no bucks cost.

 

Bravo. You summed up Darwinian evolution correctly.

 

I just killed a really big mosquito...are you sure?

 

they are Himilayan people then...they put yak butter in their tea, coffee and most everything..Nepal, Tibet, Northern India...I'm not a fan of it and everything smells like rancid butter

 

Not really. The virus constantly mutates. Eventually, if enough infections occur, one of the mutations will survive the vaccine longer, allowing for slightly longer or more effective contagious period before the vaccinated persons trained immune system can shut it down.

This is why it's so critical to get as many people vaccinated as possible to shut down the spread.

 

Lol, I'm not falling for that as easily as you did.

 

So we were way off on what the UFO aliens really look like