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Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Scalma, Jul 9, 2021.

  1. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

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    Even if we had the leverage, I'm sure someone would take the minimum to play in L.A.!
     
  2. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Hollinger’s FA money model is dead to me after last summer when the formula checked DJJ as a player who should get more than the MLE but less than the max.

    He’s a fringe player.
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Is there a much of a difference between:

    Small Forward #1
    Height 6'7
    Wingspan 6'7
    Standing Reach 8'7

    Small Forward #2
    Height 6'3
    Wingspan 6'10
    Standing Reach 8'6.5
     
  4. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    So you think Normie can hang on a nightly basis defensively against other SF’s?
     
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  5. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I saw him shut down Michael Porter jr.

    Oh wait
     
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  6. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Here are some players who have a standing reach within an inch of Norman Powell's:
    Cam Johnson
    Miles Bridges
    Rodney Hood
    Doug McDermott
    Eric Paschall
    Kevin Porter Jr.
    Tobias Harris
    Evan Fournier
    Gordon Hayward

    Here are players with an equal or shorter standing reach:
    DeMar Derozan
    Jaylen Brown
    Kelly Oubre
    Jake Layman
    Caris Levert
    Dorian Finney-Smith
    DeAndre Bembry
    Stanley Johnson
    Brandon Clarke
    Dillon Brooks
    Harrison Barnes
    Joe Harris
    Jimmy Butler
     
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  7. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    No but you know who did in the 2nd half of Game 6? Dame.
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Man, how does he keep from dragging his knuckles on the ground?
     
  9. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    What starting forwards are there that'll give Norm trouble due to his size that aren't star/superstar-caliber players? Honest question.

    Because I'm not worried about Norm's size against the following starting SFs:
    Royce O'Neale
    Mikal Bridges
    Whoever the Lakers start at SF (They're likely moving LeBron to PF)
    Dillon Brooks
    Kelly Oubre Jr / Otto Porter
    Keldon Johnson
    Harrison Barnes
    Kevin Porter Jr. (?)
    DeMar Derozan
    Khris Middleton / P.J. Tucker
    Ben Simmons / Tobias Harris
    Joe Harris
    Jimmy Butler
    Jaylen Brown (They might start him there next year)
    Evan Fournier
    DeAndre Hunter
    T.J. Warren (?)
    Gordon Hayward

    I'm not gonna go into Eastern Conference lottery teams.
     
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  10. Scalma

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    The problem with Powell at the three is it pushes Roco to the four and that means we’re gonna get beat on the boards most nights. Not good.
     
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    The crazy thing about this standing reach argument is that you know better. It's one aspect of size on the court. How tall you are dictates what the player you're defending can see before you get your hands up, that's an aspect of size. That includes spotting their shot and teammates by seeing over your head. Where your center of gravity is dictates how effectively you can defend players backing you down and turning around on you. How tall your shoulders are has a drastic effect on the leverage you can apply to an opponent when fighting for position. There are more things that we know about that makes height and not just reach an advantage.

    You know all of this stuff and you continue to harp on only one thing because that one thing isn't height and because of wingspan and shoulder width reach isn't defined by height but you know very well that height... not just reach, is a huge advantage when playing this game. So I think you're being silly and just trying to win an argument that I don't think you agree with.

    Do you think that a player with a reach that is equal with Norm's but is three inches taller has any advantage when playing against Norm?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    So lets play Dame at SF then?
     
  13. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    We were a poor rebounding team last year, and it was worse against Denver. Even if you can consistently get stops, if you can’t get the board what is the point?
     
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  14. BonesJones

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    All I'm saying is guys who compete hard can defend bigger players. I wouldn't rely on that consistency but I believe Powell isn't as undersized as people claim, he's strong, and he can hold his own defending SFs on a night-in, night-out basis.

    Now, I'd love to have Dame / Norm / Covington / Siakam / Nurkic because then you'd have the versatility to put Siakam on whoever 2 through 4, so it's not necessarily a defense for keeping C.J... I just think Norm is looked at as more undersized than he actually is.
     
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    Maybe I’m old school but I prefer size. You’re at a disadvantage defensively when positions 1-3 all your guys are 6’3” and under. Star/superstar players are who you’re going to have to defend if you want to compete for a title.

    Powell needs to be our starting 2. I mean I’ll give it time but I don’t think that experiment will work well.
     
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  16. BonesJones

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    We need to box out better. Hopefully Chauncey will preach that and hold the guys accountable for that.
     
  17. BonesJones

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    It'd make things much easier if we had a versatile defending forward instead of C.J. I'm just saying that I don't think Norm is completely mistmatched against SFs like a lot of people seem to think.
     
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    By the way, I would still pick Kanter over Zeller.
     
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    I’d do CJ for Tobias Harris straight up.
     
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    Rebounding ties in with defense. More often than not a team that’s shitty at defense is shit at rebounding.
     
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