The hate for Neil is real

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  1. Minstrel

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    The reality is that the draft is over and free agency is essentially over. There really aren't any needle-moving free agent remaining. So that's not only two of the three roster-building avenues cut off for this season, it's also the two most likely to make a difference. Trades are all that's left, by and large, and trades for impact players are rare and difficult to pull off. So, while it's not impossible that Olshey can still catch that white whale, odds are growing longer and longer.

    It's perfectly reasonable to wait until training camp or the season to start before judging. It's also perfectly reasonable to start judging now, because most likely what you see now is the bulk of what you're going to see in a few months. I don't blame anyone for holding onto hope for as long as possible, though.
     
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    Have you not listen/read what Olshey said?
    He said the 'roster was not the issue'. Everything he's done indicates he 100% wants to 'run it back'.
    This is exactly what I was expecting from NO.
     
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    "Give it time before you freak out" is a perfectly fair argument for a coach who was just hired. It makes a lot less sense when applied to a GM who has been here for nearly a decade!
     
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    Again, letting ownership off the hook for not managing the Portland Subsidiary with right winning management.
    Find a worse ownership group in the NBA, you cant including Knicks. All starts there.
    Ive never seen a thread targeting critiquing now days (targeting) The Blazers Ownership Group? Is it because of Sportstwo affiliation?
     
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    Nobody wants Neil to fail. We all wish he could have succeeded. He had 9 years to do so and has not been able to really make us actual contenders. The only time I felt like we might be there is the year Wes got hurt.

    We all want him to be fired now so we can move on.

    Most of us were completely fine with him if he did 1 of 2 things. Blow up the team and trade everyone away for picks and young players. Or the preferred option for most, use picks and get upgrades (ala Jrue Holiday for the Bucks).

    Neil chose the one bad path there was. The path Dame did not want him to choose. Signed bargain players and got a 2nd round draft pick. I understand we didn't have a ton of assets or tools to use. He has to get creative. He absolutely could pull off a trade between now and the start of the season. Some of us won't be holding our breath on that one.

    Neil has had plenty of time where people rooted for him. That time has passed for many of us. He needs to go.
     
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    Lobby Jody...I bet if we on this forum started to question ownerships goals and the current management we'd get better results than funneling everything directly to her Key Blazer Employee.
     
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    Actually, I posted a snarky comment just the other day about having an ownership that was clueless. My acid pen (keyboard) knows no bounds!
     
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    Did he predict that no big stars would show any desire whatsoever to play with Dame in Portland?
     
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    what difference does that make? Oh, and both Harden and Chris Paul have listed Portland as a preferred destination

    Paul George didn't "want" to play with Westbrook in OKC, but he re-signed there. There are three stars, including the MVP in Milwaukee

    Portland isn't going to sign a max contract player, especially with Olshey giving contracts out like CJ and Crabbe and Turner. And wasting a 10th pick on Zach. They have to trade for the star and then convince him to stay. Lots of NBA players love Portland once they are in Portland for a while
     
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    That thread is a mirror of S2
     
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    Did Harden and Paul both say that?
     
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    Neil lives rent free inside your head while he doesn’t even know you exist.
     
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    Get right out of town! :blink:
     
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    After I heard what Neil said about Blazers, offending Danny Ainge, I am pretty sure, Neil would love to move to California with Ben Simmons. How can he build anything here, when he openly say Portland is shithole. I would like him gone, just for what I heard on this one occasion. If he say it is impossible to make big trade here, what's the point of keeping him?
     
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    because ownership approves of the job he's doing, I guess. Or they dont care?
     
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    say what?...that they were willing to be traded to Portland?....yes
     
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    I just don’t remember hearing or reading that from them is all
     
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    He said Portland’s a shithole?
     

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