Politics Should schools teach Critical Race Theory?

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Should Public Schools teach Critical Race Theory?

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Leon Phelps!
     
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    After the cemetery formally rescinded their whites only policy and fired the employee who refused to sell a plot to the officer's widow, ACLU received a letter from a white man threatening to sue them for depriving him of his right to be buried in a whites only cemetery per the contract he had signed. He said he is not a racist but has preferences, including an all white resting place. Because a non racist really cares about the color of the person he rots next to.
     
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  3. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    What kind of colonist are you referring to? I don't think he's talking about the same thing you are, but I don't want to speak for him or put words in his text.

    I took it to mean that the term white (or the classification) is a made up construct, and to refer to oneself as that (or whatever) is holding yourself to a weird standard that those in power created to classify us/divide us, etc.

    Decolonize, to me, just meant to not believe or accept the standard that other people created for us as a people. I.e., Someone using a definition that was created to artificially separate us as people.

    Someone saying that "white people" do this or what, doesn't offend me. In a lot of cases, it's true, but even if I find it untrue (or it's not true about myself), it doesn't mean the other person is wrong.

    I think a better way to say it is (and I admit this might totally not be what dviss1 is getting at, so forgive me if it is wrong).

    Like if you know a Lakers fan who is knowledgeable, affable and not an arrogant clown, but you say "man, "Laker fans" are idiots", he or she would probably go "you're right. Many Laker fans ruin it for those of us who can name players outside of Kobe, Shaq, LeBron and Anthony Davis".

    So if you're *not* an annoying Laker fan, someone referring to a subgroup as a Laker fan, isn't about you.

    So if someone says "that's such a white man thing to do" to someone else, it doesn't mean I'm that. Mostly because I don't consider myself 'white' because it's a made up classification.
     
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  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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  5. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I've had a couple of colonoscopys, so I'm covered. Actually, they took out some cysts, so you might say I have a semi-colon.
     
  6. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I should clean that up a bit.

    I know that in this country, I benefit from the fact my skin is "white". I'm not saying "I see no color" or whatever though.
     
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  7. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    There's context to that remark. Not what it appears.
     
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    Thank you for amplifying melanated voices. He won't listen to me but maybe he will listen to you.
     
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  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You can choose not to be a Laker fan. It's not a permanent characteristic. I was born with my skin color. Most of the time I don't even give a shit if someone makes a joke about white people or says something about white people.... what I don't like is hypocrites. I don't like it when people go HAM about perceived slights based on race, and then turn around make a lot of generalized statements about other races.

    The whole "boy" vs "eat a bag of dicks" thing is a perfect example of what pisses me off about Dviss. He comes out and says that Calvin shouldn't say "boy" when referring to grown black men, while also simultaneously pushing back and getting angry because people pointed out that saying "eat a bag of dicks" can be perceived as homophobic. He didn't immediately say "oh my bad. I didn't think of that way." He pushed back and got angry. So........ he's a hypocrite. I can't stand hypocrites.
     
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  10. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    TMI
     
  11. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It was an analogy. They're not intended to be 100% transferable. It's a way to look at something from a different perspective and go "hm, I see what your point is". Not to go "Ha, nerd! your comparison fails, I win!"
     
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    Yes, Too (Two) Many Invasions.
     
  13. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Or....... I'm trying to work within your comparison. You don't need to get mad about it. Was I disrespectful to you?

    If I was a part of a group of people who were annoying and douchey, I would choose to not be a part of that group anymore. I can't choose to not be this skin color, and whether some people believe it to be a social construct or not, it's the box I have to check on forms and it's the race that I'm going to be judged on by employers and other organizations. I can't uncheck that box. It wasn't my choice.
     
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  14. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I can see why he said decolonize.
     
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  15. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't know why you guys need to be such condescending assholes about this.
     
  16. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    julius is not condescending. I am.
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    He called me a nitwit because I didn't agree with his analogy. He's definitely being condescending.
     
  18. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Well, I'm a racist, so there's that.
     
  19. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    you're seriously butthurt over nitwit?
     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm upset because I don't know why you felt the need to go there in the first place. I think we have known each other on here for a pretty long time.
     

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