OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. HailBlazers

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    Okay but alternatively you have vaccinated people who think they're good to go and immune mingling with others as if things are normal. Furthermore their symptoms are masked so they could be spreading it unknowingly.
     
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    This type of reasoning requires looking at the whole picture, beyond the end of ones nose. Which is why it’s kinda useless for half the country. All that matters is “vaccine isn’t 100% so nope not for me” and “kids don’t die so who cares about masks”
     
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    I can see that totally happening when the Delta variant first started to spread but I think the majority, not all, but the majority of vaccinated people are also following Oregon's mask mandates.
     
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    Three universities in Nigeria. Nothing against Nigeria, but we’ve been trying to reach you about your vehicle’s extended warranty.
     
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    Ivermectin voted for Donald Trump.
     
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    Makes no sense as it's job is to remove parasitical worm infestations from the horses ass ..
     
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    Just had my 10 year cancer free check up and my Urologist (friend too) isn't real optimistic about the Covid variants leaving any time soon. Something we will live with one way or another and said if this was the early 50's people would have responded better in getting vaccinated as they did with polio. Thinks the media & internet now days with anti this, and that, really hurts a concerted effort.
     
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    Ivermectin was the 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll.
     
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    For breakthrough cases, but since there are a lot less of those vs unvaccinated cases, your claim is not right
     
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    Keep calling it rare when hoards of people are infected with the latest variants. Can only bury your heads for so long
     
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    Duh (I mean that it the utmost respectful way, and not directed at you).
     
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    Oh really? What percentage of new infections are vaccinated people?
     
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    First, a recent study from AZ shows that only 15% of COVID cases are in vaccinated people, and with 50% of the people in the us vaccinated, it means you are more than 5 times more likely to be infected if you are unvaccinated.

    Also, new data about viral load shows that the viral load of vaccinated breakthrough cases only happens some time after the 2nd dose and that a 3rd dose reduces it by a factor of 4

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...lta-infections-vaccinations-and-boosters.aspx

    So, as said above, your claims are just plain wrong
     
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    Immune System Criticized As Anti-Science
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    September 7th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com
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    ATLANTA, GA—The CDC has issued new guidelines that specifically call out anyone relying on a functioning immune system as being anti-science.

    “Does a ‘complex network of cells, and proteins that defends the body against infection’ sound scientific to you? Didn’t think so,” said CDC spokesman Jonathan Growsky. “Science is doing what we say to do without question, not magically getting healthy while your body functions as designed. That's just superstitious nonsense”

    Growsky continued, “How can we expect the human body to keep track of every microbe it’s ever killed, and know how to kill it again quickly if it ever returns? It is as nonsensical as it sounds.”

    The CDC no longer recommends worrying about your physical fitness level, eating a well-balanced diet, or taking vitamins as these are only important if you trust your immune system.

    The media quickly began promoting the CDC's new guidelines, calling the immune system a "far-right conspiracy theory" and "fringe anti-science treatment."

    Upon hearing this, many Americans packed on 50 pounds and picked up smoking to prove that they trust vaccines alone and are not science deniers who trust their body’s immune system.
     
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    Pfizer Releases Brand New, Never-Before-Seen Drug 'Pfivermectin'
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    September 4th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com
    [​IMG] U.S.—After several successful rounds of trials and a quick overnight approval from the FDA, Pfizer proudly announced they will be releasing a brand new, never-before-seen COVID drug "Pfivermectin."

    "It's important to understand that this drug is nothing like Ivermectin, even though Pfivermectin rhymes with Ivermectin and it pretty much does the exact same thing," said Pfizer CEO Hans Pfizer. "Everyone knows Ivermectin is a widely discredited horse drug, and ours is not. Very important distinction there."

    Experts say that taking two doses of Pfivermectin every day at the first sign of COVID symptoms could lessen the severity and duration of the infection. Ivermectin will do the same thing, except it may also turn you into a horse and make everyone laugh at you. Not good!

    A Pfizer spokesman also confirmed that their drug will be approximately 30,000% more expensive than Ivermectin.

    "Don't worry about the cost," said the spokesman. "The government will cover the cost. Besides, that's a small price to pay to not turn into a horse!"
     
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    New Details Of Fauci Funding Chinese Gain-Of-Function Research Vindicate Rand Paul
    New details from The Intercept offer further vindication of Sen. Rand Paul's accusation that NIAID Director Anthony Fauci funded gain-of-function research overseas.

    By Tristan Justice
    September 7, 2021
    New details to emerge surrounding Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) grant approval for high-risk experiments overseas contradicts the agency director’s repeated denials under oath about whether the NIAID had funded “gain-of-function” research.

    On Monday, the Intercept reported findings from 900 pages of material released from an active Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit that details the work of the New York-based non-profit EcoHealth Alliance with the National Institutes of Health (NIH). The trove of documents, according to the Intercept, uncovered new specifics into a pair of grant proposals that received U.S. tax dollars from Fauci’s NIAID.

    While the existence of the first grant awarded to EcoHealth Alliance, “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence,” had already been reported and used to challenge Dr. Fauci for NIAID funding for gain-of-function research, documents from The Intercept expanded the public scope of the research conducted in Wuhan beyond bats. The annual grant of roughly $600,000 ran from 2014 to 2019. For the first three years of the grant, funding for “gain-of-function” research — wherein scientists extract viruses from the wild and engineer them to infect humans to study potential therapeutics such as vaccines — was banned.

    Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University, explained to The Intercept, “the viruses they constructed were tested for their ability to infect mice that were engineered to display human type receptors on their cell.” There were also two different types of novel coronaviruses, Ebright said, that the documents made clear could infect humanized mice. “While they were working on SARS-related coronavirus, they were carrying out a parallel project at the same time on [Middle East Respiratory Syndrome]-related coronavirus.”

    The bat coronavirus studies supported with taxpayer dollars through EcoHealth in an apparent effort to circumvent the U.S. moratorium on gain-of-function research began to make headlines early this year as the pandemic waned in the sunset of effective vaccines. The research conducted in Wuhan, the site of the first COVID-19 outbreak, has long drawn scrutiny as likely spawning the virus that infected more than 220 million people worldwide — in a theory first dismissed as a conspiracy by the political establishment until this summer.

    In May, Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul challenged Dr. Fauci on the issue before the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.

    “Gain-of-function research, as you know, is juicing up naturally occurring animal viruses to infect humans,” Paul said. “To arrive at the truth, the U.S. government should admit that the Wuhan Virology Institute was experimenting to enhance the coronavirus’s ability to infect humans.”

    Dr. Fauci, who has led the NIAID since 1984, emphatically denied Paul’s accusation.

    “Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely, entirely, and completely incorrect,” Fauci said. “The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”

    The two sparred again over the issue two months later, where Fauci repeatedly denied the U.S. government funded gain-of-function research under his purview.

    “Dr. Fauci, as you are aware, it is a crime to lie to Congress,” Paul said, and pressed the NIAID director on whether the doctor would retract statements from May denying involvement with gain-of-function.

    “Sen. Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly, and I want to say that officially. You do not know what you are talking about,” said a visibly frustrated Dr. Fauci used to the cheerleading questions of a friendly press.

    Prominent Republicans on Capitol Hill, from Tennessee Sen. Marsha Blackburn to Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley, began to call for Dr. Fauci’s resignation weeks after the first exchange with Sen. Paul, when the NIAID director’s emails became public showing Fauci aggressively sought to suppress COVID-19 origin theories of a possible lab leak in Wuhan.

    Fauci has maintained his popularity among Democrats and the White House thanks to a friendly press corps wielded to manufacture a false consensus among public health officials that embraces never-ending pandemic lockdowns.

    When Fauci’s emails became public, the political doctor’s first interview was given to MSNBC where he was showered with praise by the network’s Nicolle Wallace.

    “I read through your emails that were released,” Wallace said, emphasizing Fauci passed “the test very few of us would pass” where “the true mark of someone is if they look good even when their personal emails come out.”

    The media-savvy doctor repeated his routine of friendly media appearances immediately after scandalous reporting on Tuesday. Fauci said down with CNN’s Jim Sciutto to complain instead about the nation moving on from Fauci’s orders with shots at Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

    Tristan Justice is the western correspondent for The Federalist. Follow him on Twitter at @JusticeTristan or contact him at Tristan@thefederalist.com.
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    Corrupt Corporate Media Spreads Disinformation On Ivermectin Patients Overwhelming Hospital
    September 7, 2021 By Rachel Bovard

    Over the weekend, the magazine Rolling Stone published an article with a shocking claim: a hospital in Oklahoma was so overwhelmed with patients injured from self-treating cases of COVID-19 with the “horse dewormer” ivermectin that gunshot victims were having to wait for emergency treatment. A photo paired with the article showed a line of people waiting, presumably, for entrance to the overrun hospital.

    The article quickly made the rounds among the corporate press and lefty pundits. Rachel Maddow’s official Twitter account, with 10.5 million followers, blasted out an interview with Dr. Jason McElyea discussing the issue, which was the basis for Rolling Stone’s coverage.

    The problem? As with so much of the hysteria media spin these days, the story, the headline, and the photo were all, frankly, BS. The entire story was based around the claim of a single source: Dr. Jason McElyea, who, it turned out, hadn’t worked at the hospital for two months.

    The magazine issued a correction, which, in a sane world, would have been a full retraction. The “update” included a statement from Northeastern Hospital System Sequoyah, a regional healthcare provider in Oklahoma:

    UPDATE: Northeastern Hospital System Sequoyah issued a statement: Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months. NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose. All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.

    So, in summary: the whole story was fake, the community was needlessly terrified, a good portion of the country was led to believe that “stupid people” (e.g.: Republicans) were ingesting “horse dewormer” (e.g.: a widely prescribed antiparasitic; the doctors who pioneered its use to treat parasitic infections in humans were awarded a Nobel Prize in 2015), and the hospital had to waste resources responding to a manufactured PR storm.

    Meanwhile, crisis actors in the corporate press contributed to the hysteria, uncritically sharing a story with a claim so facially outrageous and thinly sourced that it should never have made it to print.

    If only this situation was a rare occurrence. But this type of mistake-riddled, advocacy pushing error is a feature of the corporate press: they insisted for years that Trump was compromised by Russia, that COVID-19 can be spread in schools and grocery stores but not in massive protests, that last summer’s riots that resulted in as much as $2 billion worth of damage and up to 25 deaths were “mostly peaceful.”

    Just last week, USA Today’s “fact-checkers,” whose work product is used by Facebook and other social media companies as the basis for banning users for spreading “misinformation,” fell all over themselves to say Joe Biden wasn’t checking his watch during the transfer ceremony for the bodies of 13 US service members killed in the recent terrorist attack in Kabul. But the reality mugging was even too much for USA Today to spin. The paper was forced to issue a throat-clearing retraction.

    “Journalists and fact-checkers are human,” wrote the post’s author, Daniel Funke. “We make mistakes. When we do, we correct them and try to make it right.”

    Perhaps, but this is hardly a consistent standard, and even then, one rarely applied. And the same press that demands grace for itself never, ever bestows it on the rest of us. Rest In Peace all of the social media accounts who have run afoul of corporate fact checks, only to later have their “misinformation” be proven correct.

    We live in a world where the corporate press doesn’t care about running down facts, presenting a well-sourced story, or even one with any context. These ivy-league journalism school grads care about one thing: using their platform as an advocacy tool for their ideological goals. And it’s become abundantly clear that they don’t care how stupid they look putting forward stories controlled by confirmation bias, and are completely unashamed when their hypocrisy is pointed out to them. Because they know that no professional or financial consequence is coming — just more backslapping, promotions, and awards from the country’s sneering smart set.

    Rachel Bovard is The Federalist's senior tech columnist and the senior director of policy at the Conservative Partnership Institute.
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    Israeli study: Immunity to COVID stronger in those who had the virus than those who were fully vaccinated
    In a potential shock to the position that vaccine-induced immunity is superior to natural immunity, a new study concludes just the opposite when it comes to the prevailing Delta variant.

    “This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer-lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity”

    Based on medical data from Israel, the study shows that “the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated [compared to the recovered], and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher” according to Science Magazine. The article explained that the benefit of natural immunity also translated into fewer hospitalizations “[Vaccine-induced immunity patients] were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.”

    This suggests that immunity resulting from a COVID infection provides better protection than vaccination, which contradicts what many experts, “fact-checkers”, the CDC, and White House Chief Medical Advisor Dr. Fauci have been claiming.

    Several countries, including the U.S., do not regard having been infected with COVID as being immune, and continue to recommend that previously infected people get “fully vaccinated”. Experts say this study should cause policymakers to revisit that assumption and the resulting recommendations.
     
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    Vaccine passports to expire amid record COVID cases
    Green Passes are set to expire along with the perceived effectiveness of the COVID vaccine.

    Israel, one of the first countries to “fully” vaccinate most of its population has acknowledged that the two-shot regimen of the Pfizer vaccine does not provide sufficient protection. Prime Minister Naftali Bennet, in urging everyone over the age of 12 to get a third injection said, that those who only had only two shots are in danger and should get the third shot as soon as five months after receiving the second shot.

    The government has also set an expiry date of six months for the controversial Green Pass – the tool by which the government restricts the freedoms of the unvaccinated. In addition, the government now excludes those who have recovered from COVID and considers them as unvaccinated. This, despite scientific studies, including a recent Israeli study that shows that those with past COVID infection have greater protection against future infection even compared to the vaccinated.

    The move comes as a response to a dramatic increase in COVID infections. Despite being a highly vaccinated country, Israel recorded its highest “daily new cases” since the start of the pandemic, and new cases per million were the highest in the world on Sept 1st.

    Data from the Ministry of Health show that through the month of August, new infections were confirmed in both vaccinated and unvaccinated people in the same proportion as the vaccination rate in that age group, meaning the vaccine (after two doses) did not appear to prevent new infections.

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    1. https://data.gov.il/dataset/covid-19/resource/bd7b8fa9-7120-4e8d-933f-a1449dae8dad
    2. https://datadashboard.health.gov.il/COVID-19/general?tileName=vaccinatedByAge

    *The data excludes ages 60+ since many started taking the third injection

    Had the vaccine reduced infection, those who vaccinated would be testing positive significantly less than their proportion in the population. Looking at August’s data in Israel the two figures are very close in all age groups – indicating no significant influence of the vaccine. Moreover, the unvaccinated population is tested far more than that vaccinated, since they are required to test prior to attending events that require a Green Pass such as; restaurants, swimming pools, communal prayer, and many workplaces. While the exact figure is not available, it could potentially indicate that vaccinated individuals actually test positive at a higher rate than the unvaccinated.

    When it comes to COVID vaccination, Israel has been a leading indicator of where most developed nations will end up. Recently even mainstream media in the U.S. and U.K. started questioning the enduring effectiveness of the COVID vaccines. An article published in Bloomberg titled, The Vaccinated Are Worried and Scientists Don’t Have Answers touches on some of the issues. The BBC began an article acknowledging the changing attitude by writing that “Even asking the question [about the vaccines’ effectiveness] bordered on heresy a year ago…” acknowledging that the absolute trust in the vaccination, as the key to conquering COVID, is waning along with its effectiveness.
     

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