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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    No.
    Is it a percentage thing then? At what percent certainty does a woman lose her rights in favor of the rights of tissue which no other person has ever interacted with?

    So a woman should be able to smoke or drink her pregnancy to termination legally? And if not, how should this be enforced?

    Do you realize people can buy the abortion pill online from other countries? This leads to very close to 100% pregnancy termination. And this is how most abortions in states with strict abortion laws will be done (other than leaving the state for the procedure).

    Would you support a law inspecting every piece of mail to protect these pregnancies?
     
  2. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Not at all. Abortion kills 100% of the time.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Right. So inspect all of the mail then? We have to prevent those pregnancies from ending, right?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Bingo. But I took that comment as ABM joking. Could be wrong though...
     
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  5. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    If you want to take it to the nth degree, then you roll with that.
     
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    I don't, though. I want to let a woman decide if she is going to bring a new baby into this world. I'm not supporting laws trying to force her to make one decision or other.

    If you're not, then what's the point? Making laws to make abortion clinics less available doesn't reduce the number of abortions. It just makes them less safe.

    Without stopping the pills from being delivered you aren't going to protect any pregnancy. And even then, Women will just use more dangerous techniques.

    So what exactly are you hoping to gain? Just to punish women for making their own choice? How is that moral?

    Why do you get to vote on what she does with her body. How does her getting an abortion negatively impact society?

    In fact, we know history shows that forcing people to give birth who don't want to leads to increased crime rates...
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    @ABM

    1. Your sister councils people to be or do what exactly? Not to be gay? Not to get married if you are gay? What an absolute hateful thing to spend one's time on.

    2. Instead of terminating a pregnancy would you be fine if the fetus was removed and frozen to be implanted in a person or couple who wants a kid? So life isn't terminated, just paused until later.

    3. Are you pro-life or just anti-"murder"? Seems like a pro-life person would seriously look into adoption. You seriously have no skin in this game. Maybe you should get some.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Can we actually do this?
     
  9. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Thanks, coach. Nice response.
     
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    We can freeze embryos.

    An embryo isn't considered a fetus until the 11th week of pregnancy.

    So just giving women that option could be helpful and not considered an abortion.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    There are other available options/resources out there, as opposed to simply making laws. I really choose to pay more attention to those.

    As just one example:

    https://www.nrlc.org/help/
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I'm open to many other options sans abortion.
     
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    Wow. This does seem like a good option. And heck, that should be free for women across the board. The recipient should pay for it.

    *Edit* I guess I knew this kind of... but assumed it wasn't viable for some reason.
     
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    I don't see other options there. Just a bunch of manipulative information. Seems like it would be torture to a young woman in a tough situation.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I disagree and many, many other young women/women would disagree, as well.

    Anyway, yet again, we'll have to agree to disagree.
     
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    For sure, we do disagree.
    I would hope those women in a delicate situation each would be warned before being shown that page. And certainly not forced to read it.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Abortion is SO much easier. No known side effects, either.
     
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    Easier than being manipulated? For sure. And very possibly much healthier and less harmful for society as well.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Leave it to @SlyPokerDog to bring options we may ALL agree on. Moderation at its finest!!
     
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    Wow, a lot there. All wrong.
     

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