Trade Ben Simmons poll

Sorry - I know I am snarky on this subject, but being reminded of the negativity Giannis put up with early in his career and the way he dealt with it did nothing to help my opinion of Simmons. If anyone had the power to avoid this situation it was Simmons himself!

 

LOL.

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I'm a Draymond Green fan. I was simply pointing out the content of the referenced video.

As for Green, I'd do a straight across swap for McCollum. Yes, he's not the greatest outside shooter, but damn, he brings everything else. And I think it would help balance the roster.

 

I'm pretty good with numbers. After studying this data for a while, I noticed that the years are increasing with each season.

 

Threes aren’t everything. Simmons is a threat to score 30. Green isn’t. We’ve seen Simmons without Embiid. Simmons led Sixers on 16 game win streak. Got him ROTY over Donovan Mitchell. In 2019 playoffs, Embiid missed game vs Brooklyn and Simmons led Sixers to win with 31/9. In 2020 playoffs, Simmons didn’t play and Sixers were swept in the first round. Simmons is a lethal offensive weapon getting to the basket even without a 3 in his arsenal. Don’t get me started on his defense…

 

Ben has shown the skills though to be able to move around like a forward we have not had. If they double team Dame, Dame has a plethora of options now, including Simmons, to have someone cut or slash for an easy pass layup/dunk.

I watched them and you converted me with your persistence. Ive seen enough to believe he can work.

 

im not good with numbers. You've now confused me....

 

Trading Robert Covington for Ben Simmons Would be a Mistake | Blazers Uprise

 

Jordan Nwora also has a ring while Simmons doesn’t. Does that make him a better player as well?

 

With Draymond’s 3pointer pct, as the opposing team I would encourage him to shoot it. Keep them honest, having him shoot it rather than Curry or Kalyan I would take any day.

 

Draymond averaged 7.5ppg the last three years on poor efficiency when the Warriors desperately need scoring. Simmons has averaged double that.

Yes Simmons needs shooters on the court with him. Regardless, he provides much more offensive value than Draymond.

 

Why would GS make that trade?

 

When you think of clutch, you don’t this if all those rubbish stats you just posted. None of those stats above are a indication of someone being clutch, some people are just straight ignorant on here

 

It's hard to take someone seriously that uses such poor grammar and then talks about the ignorance of others. Sure not every stat that could be considered clutch is covered but scoring in clutch situations definitely is and I believe your entire premise is that Dray would be able to score when needed to, whereas Ben wouldn't. Just because a post doesn't fit your narrative doesn't mean you need to call people ignorant and for fuck's sake proof read your shit if your going to go so far as to call someone else dumb.

 

“Just because a post doesn't fit your narrative doesn't mean you need to call people ignorant and for fuck's sake proof read your shit if “you’re” going to go so far as to call someone else dumb.”

I couldn’t help myself when I saw this. All in fun!

 

I think GSW has already said they’re not interested in Simmons, but many people have thrown out 3-way trade ideas such as:
* Blazers send out McCollum and get Green from GSW.
* GSW sends out Green and filler/picks and gets Simmons from Philly.
* Philly sends out Simmons and gets McCollum from Blazers and filler/picks from GSW.

Hence my reference that I'd be okay with an even swap of McCollum and Green.

 

the problem is that "filler" from GS has to be someone like Wiseman (who was the #2 pick last year) to make the deal work financially. I don't think it's feasible.

 

I'm not proposing this trade. I'm simply stating that others have suggesting the concept of sending out CJ, and getting back Green in a multi-team trade, and I think Green has similar value as CJ.



If the teams agree to the base concept, I believe the 'filler' could be worked out.

 

Still think they value Kuminga a lot more than that. Maybe they do that with Wiggins, but not Draymond + Kuminga/Wiseman.

That said, I would hesitate at a CJ-Draymond exchange. Think Green has the potential of falling off a cliff in productivity given his age and mileage (esp playoff miles). And his lack of scoring is a lot more apparent than Ben's. ESPN projecting 8 wins fewer with that trade is hard to dismiss for me.

 

Sure. I guess it all comes down to how you define 'feasible'. Possible, yes. Likely, no.

My point came from when @sheed30 was comparing the value of Green and Simmons. I believe CJs value is pretty close to the value of Green. I believe Simmons value is a step above that. How big of a 'step' is the question.