That doesn't work because you can't control what she does. She can end the pregnancy regardless of what we do. Coat hangers, Suicide, mail order abortion pills, plan b pills. There is no way for you to control it without removing her rights to her own body. Making somebody suffer is wrong. You are advocating making a person suffer for 9 months, and in many cases much longer. Against her will. That can never be moral.
so children who are adopted are worse off than if they were killed as an embryo? sorry. Not buying your opinion. in my opinion it takes getting down to the roots. If people. Ant accept the responsibility that can come with having casual, unprotected sex, then they shouldnt do it. Im tired of us as a society trying to make it easier for people to not be responsible for there actions. One of the biggest most important things in life is to create life. Im not buying into any moral compass that tries to minimize thst responsibility. in your scenario we turn into idiocracy. Im not for that. And if it requires stiffer laws and penalties to avoid that future, so be it.
nine months of suffering is a drop in the bucket of the years of life she is denying the embryo. Short term selfishness. Torture? in todays modern medicine to incubate an unwanted baby for nine months to allow it to be adopted is far from torture unless the mother chooses to make it so. Humiliation? Please. A woman maintaining the life would be a hero. Putting aside her personal wants to help another life have a chance is not humilIating. Its heroism. not buying the dramatic downsides you are portraying. all choices come with responsibility. Im not for making it easier to avoid these responsibilities. over the long term it will curve in the right direction regardless of the short term messes created by those who choose not to accept the responsibility and coat hanger it up.
That's not what I said. Overall, forcing women to carry an unwanted pregnancy result in higher crime rates 15 years later. Allowing women to chose results in lowering crime rates. "We estimate that crime fell roughly 20% between 1997 and 2014 due to legalized abortion. The cumulative impact of legalized abortion on crime is roughly 45%, accounting for a very substantial portion of the roughly 50-55% overall decline from the peak of crime in the early 1990s." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
When you assume all the pain and risk of carrying a pregnancy, giving birth, and being held responsible for care of child, you get a vote. Until then you do not have right to veto power over my uterus.
Any cells inside your clothes when you leave are her gift to you. Whatever that may be. Slavery is not legal. You don't own her body because she had sex with you. Quite frankly this whole line of reasoning is deplorable.
until you show some qualified stats backing that i think your now pulling numbers out of the air. If women choose to be a single mother hating the child for forcing motherhood on her( because of lack of understanding the choices she has and the responsibility they entail), then sure. If all unwanted pregnancies were responsible and went through proper adoption channels then no. its all about the choices made. Again. Not for making it easier to avoid responsibility of said choices made.
Bullshit. Absolute fucking misogynist bullshit. Women in relationships usually do consult with partners. Teens usually consult with parents. But sometimes they can't. This shit about male has equal rights means giving him absolute veto power. Because if they disagree? There are no hundreds of studies saying fertilized eggs are really people. Just a couple of men hating the idea that a woman might make a decision without deferring to their claimed superior knowledge because having a dick makes them experts in everything, especially pregnancy. Abortion laws are not about protecting "life", they are about punishing women. Trivializing women.
Edited to add link to Wikipedia. "We estimate that crime fell roughly 20% between 1997 and 2014 due to legalized abortion. The cumulative impact of legalized abortion on crime is roughly 45%, accounting for a very substantial portion of the roughly 50-55% overall decline from the peak of crime in the early 1990s." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
i dont get a vote on tour body. I get a vote on the future of the growing life i helped create that is in your body. I say this only as the person who helped make the child. Im all for both parents having to accept an aboetion and if they do, then it sbould be allowed. But if the father(not the government) doesn't consent the. He sboild be allowed the opportunity to raise the child the mother doesnt want. How elsecwill men wver have children? Sorry. My opinion is you aRe wrong in thinking you have sole decision making of the life you HELPED to create. If you dont want it? Fine. But if the father does, women have an obligation to allow him that chance at fatherhood the moment they consented to letting him stick his penis in her. Cant have it both ways. Sorry. So my cote would be both parents must consent. Im not for government control saying its right or wrong. Man can have a very evil side. deny man the equal opportunity to raise a child and man will figure out a way to remove women from the equation. As sad as that would be.
Women who are forced to carry pregnancy against their will have significantly higher rates of depression and substance abuse, are more likely to be poor, much less likely to complete education. Women who choose to carry pregnancy do not suffer these effects. Problem isn't baby, problem is taking away all choice and forcing woman to have child she doesn't want.
I have said fertilized eggs are alive. So are unfertilized eggs. So are bacteria. This might come as a shock to you but I consider women to be human lives.
a man who was wanting a child who is denied that opportunity from the consenting partner can also have these things happen. Depression, drug abuse, etc. its as if you think men have no emotions…
Position is clear. Orion Bailey thinks men must be allowed to force woman to carry pregnancy. Because a woman isn't a human. Just a hole to stick it in.
The avoidance of accepting of responsibility for ones actions is about as immoral as it can get. And thats what people push for more of these days. Not holding people accountable for thier actions and behavior. Lets just kill off the unwanted. heard that one before….think it was some disgusting kkk rally video or something….
