Politics Oregon Democrats’ anti-democratic power play

I like it! My biggest concern now is American Patriotism/Unity is disappearing as its them against us anymore. I would like to see people come together on issues and through consensus/give and take get things done without our way or no deal.
How can we as a Country be United and strong without working together, wont work. Just like when marriages or any relationship divorces. Simmons Philly.
Its sad because as a youngster we were taught to give and take and find common ground and resolve conflict.
Im almost convinced its to late to Unite, and we will become more like Sunnies and Shia and constant war between tribes, I never though Id see the day when segregation is promoted again.
Ive been an independent for a long time.

 

In a R state, the dems cry 'foul' when new districts are drawn up and in D states the GOP cries foul. The D map is a little skewed, but I wouldn't call it gerrymandering.

 

Republicans are doing it worse all over the country and you're only complaining about little old Oregon?

 

I was a registered Independent for just that reason after I quit the Republican party decades ago. Then I had to go Democrat when I saw how insane the Republicans were coming. Now I register as a Republican because I believe in some of the salient views such as fiscal responsibility and a strong military. But I'm thinking, the party is now a Trump cult and not anything like the old Republican party. Spending money foolishly and pinching money whenever it helps the disadvantaged or middle class. Also, they are promoting increased wealth disparity at an alarming rate.

 

Like you Im a fiscal dude, and do support a strong military. I also support law enforcement and first responders. I know there needs to be some reform and purging of bad apples. I do favor a smaller efficient fed with States having more power.
I'm pro choice and for all LGBT rights. But most of all Im Pro lets stop bumping heads and work together and keep this Country united and help young people.

 

We can't be united in good if people refuse to accept data and facts as a basis for decision making.

As long as people support snake oil salesman selling revisionist history this divide will grow.

 

When a Country is made up of different races, religion, cultural preferences, politics and all sorts of cultural differences, theres always going to be disagreements to varying degrees. I agree that facts & data should play a role but I also think the ability to respect and conciliate is just as important. There has to be a pathway to compromise and consensus on issues that face society. Facts & Data should be made available through free press and speech so people can make their own decisions, right or wrong.
I dont feel comfortable to telling someone who to marry, or if their religion is false or not. If a man and women or two men or two women want to have a kid thats their personal business. I have the right of free speech to say something to whomever on whatever, but I wont, unless a line is crossed and threats are made. Communication and the ability to just be part of a solution without always being right or getting ones way is more productive in my mind.

 

Just an FYI congressional districts are drawn at the state level by state legislatures, not the US Congress. There are a handful of states that have non-partisan commissions that draw up the congressional districts based on a set of criteria that is defined in their respective charters. But most are controlled by state legislatures which then draw the congressional districts up in a way that benefit their party on the national level to maximize their parties advantages in the house. This is hugely important as the house of representatives is pretty evenly divided right now with 220 Dems and 212 Reps, and many projections are showing a net gain for Republicans nationally from anywhere between +2 and +8 through gerrymandering in this last reapportionment cycle.

If anyone is interested there is a tracker for this on 538: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-2022-maps/

As has been stated before this should really be removed from the states responsibilities and have a national standard that is more fair and creates better representation for us voters.

 

Absolutely. As long as policy isn't being created or continued in support of those "revisionist history" selling groups, but based on facts and data there is a path ahead.

Unfortunately that's not currently the case and it has ceased being the trend.

 

This is how I define being politically correct. Respect for others. When I meet people and there is some doubt about how to pronounce their name, I like to get it right by checking with the person himself/herself. So, when someone says "Please don't call me a redskin, I call them a native American.