Don't think it's an opinion that men and women having vaginal sex can and will lead to pregnancy. Pretty sure that's the most concrete fact anyone in here has shared. I never said self control is easy, in fact a lot of the time it's very difficult, but if you aren't willing to exercise that control, be willing to deal with your consequences. The concept of self control is easy, the practicing of it can be anything BUT easy..
how many times does it have to be said to not be confusing to you???? Ive cleared it up so many fucking times i swear…. Yea one can not vote what they beleive is right. yes i can be against abortion but not vote for it. Yes some people could be for stricter things but not actually vote for them. It takes an expanded mind to move beyond, “ i believe this and im going to do everything in my POWER to enact my beliefs”, vs “i believe this shouldn't happen and im for it not happening. But im not for a law forcing someone to do what they dont want to do on this.” Again some of my comments after a certain point were facetious because of the hasty bullshit that came before it. the english langiage is fickle i tent to take most words littlerally to avoid confusion. If you prefer idioms that on you. Anyhow i told you this yesterday. We arent getting anywhere. Your lack of compromise, along with a few others, for some communication breakdowns and misunderstandings is ridiculous. Anyone who has zero patience in a conversation and points hasty fingers is despicable, disgusting and can go fuck themselves.
Well that's big of you. Do you have a website with contact information so we can fill you in and get your sign-off?
to answer that last question, no. Not me. But i have no more right to tel @ABM he is wrong in his beliefs that abortions should be abolished than i have the right to tell crand she cant have an abortion. People will beleive their own morals. There is no right or wrong until you one forces those morals on others. Abm has said he is more cor education these days than laws. thos extreme man hate for anyone who tbinks abortion ia bad is jsut stupid. I want you to understand me. Not judge me. But abm cant say that same thing regarding his beliefs?? It reeks if a double standard in my opinion. I wanted a conversation like this with crand. I asked questions. I didn't demand or state shit other than that some men might lean certain ways based on certain things. and i was hoping we coild have discussed the rMificTions on both men and women. I was basically told i dont have thst roght and to go fuck myself. Because i pushed for man being involved in the decision making. Having a voice in the discussion and that women would be wise to listen and then make their choice instead of just tell the man to shut up, he has no say. That was my original point of my very polite post to crand. Then shit spiraled…. It was apperantely complete bullshit for me to think a man has a right to voice his opinion and a woman should respect that right. nd then make her decision once man had a say.
oh your back? I thought you left. L But back for more hallow gotchas huh? Youve already proven not worthy of any real response. Go back to where you came from and just put me on ignore.
I don't think she is interested in discussing abortion with any man because a man's opinion on the matter is irrelevant. Don't take it personal.
Please don't put words in my mouth. Obviously I wasn't referring to that part of your statement. Re-read your post where you said ". . . if you don't want to go down that path, then don't have sex, it's as simple as that. Problem solved!"
What choice? The choice to use contraceptives and still get accidentally pregnant? The choice to get raped? The choice to have health-related reasons for aborting a pregnancy? There are many other instances where I think the responsible choice is to have an abortion if they know they can't care for it. Do we really need more kids in foster care, in poverty, in families of abuse or mental illness, born from a mother on drugs/alcohol, etc?
but thats where i played devils advocate. Okay if she isnt interested the. Im not interested in her virws. Her views can go fickthemselvws. Shes not gonna conteol my a ility to be a dTher. see how that works? When people are willing to work together, regardless of history, then we will not have any improvements. Man wants woman to allow man to have a say. Rhen woman can make her decision. Deny man that and man will deny woman that decision. Its bow shit works and if she doesnt loke it then maybe she should ease up on her man hate. Be ause it just creates mire woman hate When will we leanr that love is begter than hate? that compromise is better than lines drawn? That listening to the opposition will go further than condemning them without allowing them a voice??? i mean isnt that what women and minorities have been fighting for? But mow are fone silencing men in return? Blatant double standard.
Let me ask you, why is it so difficult for us to actually want to hold people accountable for their actions then? The solution if you don't want to get pregnant really is a simple one.
It just comes across really arrogant to think that men should have the right to consult with a woman before she makes a choice about HER body, when that sort of thing is not argued for in any other circumstances. It seems worse when you seemingly justify men making laws that restrict what she can do with her body because she didn't let a man have a say in what she does with her body. Don't want to listen to what I have to say, fine, I take away your rights??! WTF?
That was settled decades ago. But, you've gotta admit, I'm a close second. One slip up by you, just agree with someone nice one time, and the trophy is all mine, baby. I'm that close.
Me? I have strong beliefs in the holy Trinity but I'm not pushy. Why am I not pushy? Because it's counterproductive. So, my relationship with the Lord is largely private unless asked. Last, I believe God is a God of love above all else.
