OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    Yeah we don’t need nurses and healthcare workers who don’t believe in science and other medical experts.
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    Probably 75-80% of “Christians” you run across are completely fake religious people. They don’t know the Bible, they don’t conduct themselves in a manner that their god would, they don’t live thy neighbor and so on. They are full of shit and use the Bible and their religion as a tool to behave like the twats they are.
     
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  3. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Seems unnecessarily verbose. I'd just call them Republicans.

    barfo
     
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  4. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Do you seriously believe they are the same?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Many use the Church as a place to meet clients. I know a landscaper who was struggling. Started attending church that a lot of well off people attend.

    He now has something like 30 employees and takes a lot of vacations.
     
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    SO one vaccine mandate is ok, but not another? Why are you accepting of one and not the other?
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I really don't believe it's that high at all. My parents are religious and are extremely kind and caring people. They're also vaccinated.
     
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    They are the same.
     
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    mRNA is a completely different class than anything mandated before it.
     
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    I'm sure every one opposed is well versed on the differences.
     
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  11. HailBlazers

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    So why play dumb with false equivalencies?
     
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    And far better understood at the time of mandates than any other vaccine before it.

    *Edit*
    Studied for literaly 40 years before any mandates...
     
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    The vaccines required by school have been and evaluated for many years. We know and understand the long-term impacts of those.
    Comparing the vaccines required by schools is not the same.


    This is a false comparison. The Blazers record is binary. They either won or lost. There are no other variables involved.

    All the 'science' surrounding covid changes (seemingly daily). No one has all the data or fully knows the best course of action.... Until there is definitive evidence of the full impact of the vaccines (including the long-term impacts) - people should have the right to make their own decision.

    The hubris of those pushing vaccine mandates is beyond concerning. It appears that those who contracted the disease have better immunity than those who get the vaccine, yet it's being pushed regardless of health history.

    Receiving FDA approval is not some lofty standard either.... Approximately 1/3 of new drugs that FDA approved between 2001 and 2010 were found to have safety problems after the FDA approval (https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval). Here is the key quote:
    Even for this mRNA vaccine, we were told that it would stay in the arm and wouldn't travel through the body. A few weeks later we get news that it does travel. Is that going to be an issue? No one knows yet...

    We will not have definitive answers on what effect this virus or these vaccines will have on people for many years to come. Until then, everyone should be given the latitude to make what they believe to be the best choice for them and their family.
     
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    Yet, there has never been a vaccine successfully developed and approved before....
     
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    At the moment about 13.3% of the population has had Covid and about .2% of the population has died. That means that if you get Covid in the US, there's about a 1.6% chance you'll die.

    That may not seem like a big number until you compare it to how rare it is to get severe adverse reactions from actually getting vaccinated. .007% get hospitalized and .002% die.

    No vaccine is 100% effective. But using the math acumen of a toddler, it seems clear that if you're not worried about getting hospitalized or dying from COVID itself, then you shouldn't be at all worried about getting hospitalized or dying from the vaccine.

    About 182m people are fully vaccinated, so about 54% of the population, yet over 90% who are hospitalized at the moment are unvaccinated. Again, simple math.

    The risk of 1) Getting the virus, 2) Getting hospitalized, and 3) dying are much lower in vaccinated people than in those who are unvaccinated. The latest I've seen is that those who are unvaccinated are around 10x more likely to be hospitalized and 11x more likely to die.

    So to summarize: Right now there is a vaccine that is safe and readily available to you, it's free, it's recommended by the Center for Disease Control, approved by the FDA, greatly reduces the chance of infection, hospitalization and death, you're a nurse........ and your not going to take it?

    This isn't complicated.

    So regarding the nurses you know: hopefully you can at least understand why it's hard for those blessed with the ability of rational thought to not think they're stupid and uneducated.
     
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    Because there hasn't been an urgent need. We had a vaccine literal days after examining the DNA.

    Going back at least as far as the polio vaccine, which was widely released to the public in the 1960s, we’ve never seen a vaccination with long-term side effects, meaning side effects that occur several months or years after injection.

    And, in every vaccine available to us, side effects — including rare but serious side effects — develop within six to eight weeks of injection.

    We know how everything in the vaccine reacts with the human body. We know the spike protein is far less damaging and far less numerous as a result of the vaccine than the virus.

    Its not possible for the vaccine to be worse than catching covid-19. And everyone who doesn't get vaccinated will almost certainly catch and expose others to the virus.

    The math needed to understand all of this is elementary.
     
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  18. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    No anti vaxer has the right to make me sick. If they want to stay home and not mingle with the public then they have that right. Of course, that would mean giving up their children to someone more grown up to be raised.
     
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    nah. They are just despicable, disgusting idiot humans.

    cause someone says so. So its a fact!!!!
     
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    i personally know a very well educated, democratic nurse that wont get it.

    So sick of the bashing from some of the left as if they know the black and white answer to everything and anyone who thinks differently is evil( or whatever multitude of insults you want to use that is soooo often tossed out there)
     
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