Trade Ben Simmons poll

They are buds, but there are a couple number 1 picks on that team as well. Maybe need to include one?

 

I like the off-season moves too. I want to root for player that want to be here.

However, even though I think CJ is a good character guy, and a hell of a basketball player, I recognize that he and Dame can only get us so far in the playoffs. To be a contender, we need to take a risk.

Getting a second all-star is difficult, especially for a town like Portland. We drafted Dame. Check. Now how do we get that second star? Free agency? Nope. Draft? Quite tough, especially considering we have one all-star already who is doing a great job keeping us just outside of the lottery.

The only realistic chance Portland has of getting that second star is through a trade. Everyone likes to hope for a consolidation trade where we send out a bunch of solid starters and get back an all-star. Those don't come around very often. And when they do, that all-star is going to have flaws. It's just a question of if Portland can hide or manage those flaws.

I think this is a rare situation where Portland has a serious chance of grabbing that second all-star. Does Ben Simmons have flaws? Absolutely. But I think Portland, and especially Dame, is perfectly suited to take advantage of his unique skill set. Now how much beyond CJ do we offer is the question. My comfort level is CJ + (young talent) + future 1st. Should we go higher than that?

 

oh yeah duh

 

CJ for Ben straight across would be my preference and the salaries match. If we include future pick or so Im good with that.

 

These are both eminently reasonable takes. What's more, I agree close to across the board.

 

Has Embiid always followed CJ on Insta?

 

Slippin bruh. Rely on you for these answers.

 

well if he didn't before he does now.

 

The preferred path for Morey may be to let the Simmons situation get ugly, withhold his next check, issue fines and/or suspensions and wait for other franchises to fall apart. How many teams feel great about their offseason moves at the start of training camp but awful 20-30 games into the season? Morey may need to wait for another franchise to feel a sense of desperation.

 

if it's to the point that Simmons is sitting out and Philly is taking action against him, the trade value of Simmons tanks even more than it already has. That will be ugly staining anyone involved. I think Morey would be an idiot to let it get that ugly

 

lol speaking of ben's likes

 

@EL PRESIDENTE whatchu know 'bout dis?!

 

Morey is a stat guy that thinks he's the best gm in the league, his ego wont allow him to just trade Ben now for a pkg that would appear to the public he lost. He knows the GM's around the league will be more desperate to shake things up after 15-20 games.
He may feel the variance between what he gets now versus from desperate team is to great and he's willing to sit on it, and Ben could also change his position come back and get an agreement from Morey that they will work out a trade that best for both parties. Again, he referenced the Rogers impasse that got resolved.

 

Still nothing???

less than a week before preseason….

Simmons stock dropping….

 

Whatever, how many big trades are made during fall camp or even pre season. Your guess is as good as mine!

 

I'm at the point now where i hope Simmons remains, against his will, in Philly, and causes the biggest shitstorm with Embiid. Both guys seem like tools in many ways. I hope the smug Morey-on enjoys what he has helped fester. Then they can change their name to the 86ers.

 

insider trading! Insider trading!!

 

also dont trust @EL PRESIDENTE He screwed me on bitcoin and stormx. Lol.

 

Yeah the teams that would decide to do a trade 20 games into the season would be fine waiting until the trade deadline. Will Philly be fine waiting until the trade deadline? I think they will accept it if they thinks its best but I'd imagine they'd much rather do a trade sooner.

Philly also probably sees that they could've got an all star and picks for Simmons 6-12 months ago... so its going to be difficult for them to accept taking less. Eventually will they believe the offers are not going to improve and they have to get what they can? I'd think owners flinch before Morey. Ultimately the owners push for what they want.

Some offers might disappear as well. If the Blazers are a top3 team in the west I don't think they will do a CJ for Simmons trade. Already they have gone past an opportunity to bring Simmons into a full training camp, so as each day goes on he is worse less to the Blazers.