75 Best Players in the History of the NBA: Dame?

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  1. KSF-ERIC

    KSF-ERIC Well-Known Member

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    So they're naming the 75 best players ever at this season's All Star weekend. The No Dunks crew has Dame making it. What do you guys think? That would be quite an honor.
     
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    HELL YES!
     
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    I say Dame is on the edge of making the top 75-100.

    I think if he can get us into an NBA Finals ….perhaps make NBA First Team another time, win the scoring title or MVP- he cracks the top 75. Win a title…he shoots up and flirts with the top 50. But he’s still got some work to do.
     
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    "Shakes head"

    How do you fairly judge players across different eras? People can't even agree who the 75 best active players are. They can't even reach a consensus on what the criteria should be. Just look at the huge divide in this forum over how Simmons rates.
     
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    I love Dame and think he is one of the 75 greatest players ever to play but his career accomplishments or lack thereof make it questionable to recognize him at this time as one of the top 75. I mean, I am biased so I'd throw him in there but if I take away being a fan of our team and him, I would probably reserve that for current guys that it's not close for and honor more retired superstars.

    You have 8 active players that have won an MVP out of only 36 all time that have won MVP. Then you have Melo who is the tenth greatest scorer of all time and CP3 who is top 50 scoring and top 5 in both assists and steals. I would think in a league with a 75 year history 10 active players out of 75 might just be enough.
     
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    Dame is on the edge, I wouldn't be mad either way.

    I think of these rankings as if the player retired today. I guess in that sense maybe I lean towards he shouldn't make it. Will be happy if he does.

    Does Walton get cut?

    When will they release the results of this?
     
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    Nope
     
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    Yes.
    He's 16th NBA AND ABA all-time in points per game.
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_per_g_career.html

    Of course, it really depends on how you want to look at things. Damian Lillard was a 4-year player in college. Some stats will really hurt him for that - others will have the opposite effect. Which do you care about?
     
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    I've only been watching the NBA since '77, but he's definitely in the Top 75 to me. He's the greatest closer i've ever seen , PERIOD! Not just in Blazer History. That means something.
     
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    I don't think winning titles or leading teams to the finals is a fair barometer. Nor do I think MVPs awards are either.

    It's a subjective award though, because realistically, as players from the 50's, 60's and 70's just aren't as good as the players are now, but people consider them "best". Like Hondo, Cousy, Bobby Jones, etc, they wouldn't be better than players today.

    Is Dame a better player than Hondo, Cousy, etc? Yes.

    Instead of top 75, they should have done top players from their era. Dame is clearly a top 4-5 PG of his era (I'd have Curry as clearly better, CP3 as better, Russell and Irvin as same level).
     
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    He’s right on the cusp. For what it’s worth, ESPN did a top 74 of all time last season and he made it right at the end of the list.

    also, the website says it’s being announced this month, not during all star.
     
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    He's my #1 right now so there is that.
     
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    There aren't 75 other NBA players who have football plays named after them....
     
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    All Star weekend. Wait, apparently it’s earlier than that.
     
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    I'm sorry, but that is absurd. Do you really think any guard in the current NBA is better than West, Frazier, or Oscar Robinson? What current 6th man is better than Hondo? What current center could have scored on Russell or defended Wilt or Kareem? Did you ever see Dr J or David Thompson in their prime?

    I will say you are right about Jones. Good player, but over-rated from playing on a loaded Philly team.
     
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    The competition now is just *slightly* better.
     
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    ...this seems like a fitting place for this video, seeing as AI and his top 5 should be in the top 75 imo.

     
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    KAT could easily score on Russell. Gobert could've defended Wilt.

    The odd thing is none of those old centers or the current ones can carry a team now, center has become the least important position.
     
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    get rid of the restricted circle, do away with at the hand check and impediment rules, and ditch the 3 point shot, and C's will be the thing again. C's just didn't become obsolete by evolution. They became obsolete because the NBA changed the rules of the game so dramatically
     
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