Trade Ben Simmons poll

I think Morey's got to be hoping for something out of left field, like SGA demanding out of OKC because he's tired of the perpetual draft-pick hoarding and using the team simply to absorb other team's shit contracts.

 

i'd rather have SGA. Not sure i get Presti's motivation to make that exchange.

 

I didn't know SGA had signed an extension. Never mind: he has even less leverage.

I like SGA but I don't think he's better than Simmons. I think both teams would benefit - SGA works better with Embiid, whereas you could build the Thunder around Simmons and maximize him.

I think of SGA as like "poor man's Penny" and Simmons as "taller Jason Kidd".

 

And this... not sure of the source: https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/10...lazers-should-go-all-in-on-ben-simmons-trade/

There have been numerous teams linked to Simmons. The Golden State Warriors, San Antonio Spurs and Toronto Raptors all had outlandish trade offers from Daryl Morey and the 76ers centered around Simmons. The Indiana Pacers were the first team to reportedly send an offer to Philadelphia for him. Most recently, the Sacramento Kings, Cleveland Cavaliers and Minnesota Timberwolves have been linked to him the most. But, there is one team that stands out among them all that an NBA scout believes should go all-in on acquiring Simmons.

When talking to NBA Analysis Network’s own Evan Massey, this anonymous scout believes the Portland Trail Blazers should do everything they can to land Simmons. “When I look at potential destinations for Ben Simmons, only one truly sticks out. Portland is head and shoulders above the rest. Simmons would be a perfect running mate for (Damian) Lillard. Move CJ McCollum in the deal, Norman Powell plays the two, and Simmons can slide in and provide a skill-set the Blazers have been needing.”

Simmons has already said that he doesn’t want to be traded to Portland, but at this point, he likely has little say on where he ends up. The Philadelphia 76ers are going to find and accept the best package they can and if it comes from Portland, so be it. With Damian Lillard on the roster, Simmons will not be the No. 1 option, which is part of the reason he doesn’t want to play with Joel Embiid in Philadelphia. But, there is no denying how good of a fit he would be in Portland. The Portland Trail Blazers were very poor defensively last season, as the Sacramento Kings were the only team with a worse defensive rating in the NBA. The team has plenty of firepower offensively, but they need to start locking down defensively if they are to make any real noise in the postseason.

 

and yet, it was Kanter as the starting C that helped the Blazers make it to the WCF

maybe it wasn't all Kanter last year as much as it was the other defensive sieves he was playing with. By the way, Kanter has significantly better "impact" numbers in the playoffs then does Zeller

he certainly is now after Hood's Achilles injury. Hood was pretty good that season though. I'd probably give Nance the edge but it isn't a big one. And we don't know yet how Nance will fit in the rotation

Curry averaged 2 more minutes a game that season than Ant last season; and he averaged 3 more minutes in the playoffs

in other words, he's unproven...just not "totally"....for instance, his total playoff minutes is 3

Turner was a better defender than Snell and could run the offense, some of the time. Now, I feel dirty because I didn't like Turner, at all. He was one of Olshey's worst mistakes

we're just splitting nits right now

but again, you're arguing that this bench will be better, based on spec, and based upon two or three players playing better than they ever have. It might happen like that but chances are it won't, not for all of them, and if a couple fall short, this bench won't be as good; it's margin of error is that small

I hope you guys are right, that Nas and Ant take big steps forward; Snell turns into James Jones 2.0; Nance is in the running for 6th MOY, and that Billups can unlock all the potential you guys see, but I'm not seeing. I'm getting old....I'd like to see the Blazers as a contender before I croak....although I guess a lot of you guys think I croak all the time

 

when did Simmons say he doesn't want to be traded to Portland?

 

You have to lean awfully heavy on Nas and Ant being better and nance being the missing piece to hold the bench together to see us picking up more than what I previously suggested 2-3 wins. Tell me which WCF teams we were behind last year we will vault ahead of. Also, you don't think say the NOP will be even better? DEN when they get Murray back with a rising Michael Porter Jr.? I know it's fun to mock the age of the Lakers, but they are utterly stacked. I could see us being better than Dallas despite them having an easier division, but I certainly don't see us being better than the Lakers who finished behind us last year. GSW may have some health this year and Wiseman and Wiggins both learning their system and improving their games, especially Wiseman. I could see us treading water and perhaps maintaining our 6th place finish. I could also see us in the Play-in again.

What I don't see with the current roster composition, is being better than Utah, Denver, Phx, Clippers or the Lakers. I also think Jah Morant and the young Grizzlies could really find another gear. When I look at the West I just don't see us doing better than 5th at best and we could even end up in the play-in. So, yes we might be better, but are we enough better to make a difference in standings? I just don't see it with up-and-coming teams combined with veteran teams who will be healthy to start this year.

 

i have no clue, unless this anonymous scout knew something. that's why i said i was skeptical of the source.

 

he wants to go somewhere with a social scene and Portland was supposedly not up to his snuff per a report earlier in the summer. whether it’s true, who knows?

 

I'm actually low-key excited about McLemore without trying to convince myself he's more than a practice body. I also really like him also if we do in fact pull the trigger on a Simmons trade.

 

that Jason Dumas report has already been refuted a few times by more reliable sources (especially closer to Rich Paul). I dunno if this new thing comes from a different source.

 

Yeah, my guess he is on the outside looking in, in terms of playing time right now. One too many shooting guards.
But as we all know, injuries happen. So he does give us that extra depth.

 

We are definetely better than the Clippers, Kawhi is out the whole season.

I'd put Utah and Phoenix ahead of us. Denver maybe. I think the Lakers will be a mess although if healthy LBJ + AD yes are tough.

The big variable is the impact of the new coaching and injuries. It gives the Blazers a lot of variance. There could be injuries to Portland or to other west teams. After 20 games I expect we will have a much better idea on the coaching impact.

We might be able to add some bench depth for the playoffs as we did a couple years ago with Hood and Kanter midseason, if we don't get production from Ant/Little or have an injury.

None of the teams in the west look dominant, like the Warriors of a few years ago, or Brooklyn right now. So while the Blazers could be ranked behind Utah and Phoenix, they could easily improve during the year and win a playoff series against any of them.

 

Nobody thought Phoenix was good this time last year.

 

They played very well in the bubble and they added Chris Paul. I didn't expect them to go to the Finals, but I definitely thought they'd be good.

 

I missed that Kawhi was out for the season. That indeed is a game changer. I still don't see us being a team that gets past the second round with the current roster, but would love to either be proven wrong or see the big league trade finally happen that gets us to the next level.

 

6 months is about the earliest recovery time for an ACL injury, and Kawhi had just a "partial" tear. But for serious ACL surgeries, it can be a full year for recovery. And if any player will take his time returning it's Kawhi

 

Im thinking Ben will come back after pre season with an agreement to be traded before the deadline.
Morey doesn't just spew hopeful scenarios (GB & Rogers) unless its part of his strategy.

Sixers president of basketball operations Daryl Morey went down that path recently when he cited Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ reported unhappiness in Green Bay. That squabble was a dominant storyline all summer only to see Rodgers eventually suit up and play well this season. Morey’s stance makes some sense, especially with Simmons having four years left on his deal, and sources around the league maintain that if there is one NBA executive who has the stomach to endure the outside noise and circus that can come with a prolonged standoff, it is Morey.
– via Jon Krawczynski, Kelly Iko, Jon Krawczynski and Kelly Iko @ The Athletic

 

lol this nonsense again. i would wager on us being better than Philly to start the season.

Why hasn't Simmons been traded yet?
The simple answer? Because Damian Lillard and Bradley Beal aren't available yet.

Morey has proven three things over his long, successful run as an executive: He isn't afraid of awkward situations, he isn't going to make a deal for the sake of making one and he is constantly trying to swing trades for stars.

Like several other teams around the league, the 76ers are closely monitoring the Lillard situation in hopes that he asks out of Portland. Earlier this summer, Lillard said he didn't feel like the Blazers had a championship roster and wanted to see improvements. Portland has had a quiet offseason in terms of free-agent additions.

Until there's any movement there -- or another team comes in with a huge offer for Simmons separately -- it seems likely Simmons will remain on Philadelphia's roster for the foreseeable future.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...immons-philadelphia-76ers-their-trade-impasse

 

Morey should be fired. He was propped up by Harden for so long.