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ive posted yet two more links….. did you even see me say i posted links in the post you just quoted? Or you just quoting me to argue instead of get your answers?

 

There have been crime increases correlated with pandemic. In liberal and conservative areas. Police not disbanded or refunded.

 

Those links show the last 18 months police leaving. Specifically, choosing to leave. Not being defunded, not forced out, choosing out.

But crime rates started trending up in 2014/2015

https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/us/or/portland/crime-rate-statistics

 

read the one saying they left in droves this year. Are you really gonna say crime isnt a corrolation?

not bothering with you. You always find a way to spin.
Fact is crime hit a peak this year and the police force numbers are down.
Spin it how you like. Most of us aren't gonna play that game and see the correlation as pretty obvious.

there is no debating this…

 

Right. This year would be included in the 18 months statement.

Crime usually spikes during epidemics and times of economic turmoil. When a large percentage of the population is out of work you see crime rates spike for obvious reasons.

Check out increased crime rates in 2008-2010 as well. Which was the start of reversing the trend of dropping crime rates.

I'm not sure why you're being argumentative. I'm trying to help you back up your claim with data.

It's not important if your claim is supported by data. The important part is that people draw conclusions from data, rather than anecdotes and rumors.

 

Question. Do you try to debate every single thing you disagree with online, or just here?


Yes crime rates went up in 2008-2010
Did homicides go up 800% like they did recently?

you know the saying my eyes dont lie? Case stands here. I don't care about numbers, though most lean my way. More people speeding. Zero cops on the roads.
Homocides up 800%. More cops retiring this year than ever before.


im not here to debate this. I posted the links to show whats going on. If you want to debate it go join the forum of the sites i posted.

The reality is there are less cops than ever before patrolling the streets, based on a mass exodus, in part, because people deemed every one of them bad(evil), like this thread claims.

Just like the nba, number can be spun to fit whatever narrative you deem fit. Doesn't make it a reality.

So if you want to debate semantics, find someone else.

The reality is many parts of Portland have gone to shit in a way never before seen in such a quick timeline. Combined with much, much less police presence, its only common sense to know there is a correlation.

 

I question claims which interest me. Absolutely.

If you make claims online you're inviting debate. You should make sure you have evidence to support your claims if you don't want to look silly.

And correlation is not the same as causation.

 

blah blah blah and nothing about all the links.
Blah blah blah and nothing about real life. Lol

 

So again, your links don't support causation. Crime rates were climbing before the time frame your links addressed, and there were extenuating circumstances during the time frame your links addressed.

So it's very far from conclusive. It's too bad you have your mind made up in spite of the evidence...

I guess we can thank Trump for making that seem like an acceptable course of action.

 

blah blah blah….

what you dont get is communication. No one wants to listen to a demeaning know it all. Regardless. But you keep thinking you know everything and belittle anyone who doesn't think the way you want them to.
You live here day and night and have to quote and comment on anything and everything as if your the gospel of the forum.

I told you i wasn't interested in debating and you cant just move on. You haven't refuted anything i have said that i have witnessed, aNd frankly i don't care. You just want to fight. You sift from thread to thread looking for anything you can disagree with so you can assert your “intellectual supremacy”.
Sometimes there doesn't have to be evidence to have common sense.
Did the bear shit in the woods? Wheres your proof?
Did the tree make a sound when it fell in the woods? Wheres your proof?

You haven't said shit about my comments of more and more people speeding and no cops on the roads.
direct causation.

homicides up 800%. You don't think some of that is because they know there isn’t a quick response time anymore?

You think everyone has to provide some study, report or numerical graph to prove a point when maybe the studies and numbers aren't yet accessible and quantifiable.

some of us live in the real world and not the internet world.

you can keep on arguing if you want. You can belittle all you want. I made my statements and i live by them and i really don't give a shit what you think about them or me.

Lastly, you should blame yourself. Not trump. Learn a better mode of communication and you might get ears to remain open longer. Until then, your deflection of your own behavior onto trump is just the typical icing on the cake and cracks me the fuck up!
Hahahaha

Now. Cue the im this im that im the problem… blah blah blahjjhhjjjjhhhhhhhhh. Lol

 

They need bullets. Forget the shot.

 

L.O.L.

 

Blah blah blah

 

I didn't see a link in this little sub thread and I'm not about to go through over 1,000 posts to find what you said on the subject in all those posts.

 

Your numbers put us over 700,000 dead in just those months. Something is rotten in Denmark.

 

Your sources were not credible.

 

Katu and kgw not credible?

Your previous post said you couldnt kind the links.
Stop being a bandwagon jumper Lanny.

Whatevs…

 

if you aren't going to scroll to see them how can you claim the below???

Smh….

 

The nastiness, especially of one particular person, is one reason I don't care to post about personal trauma.