Trade Ben Simmons poll

Well. Im officially converted to the “Ben who??” Camp?

i want to see what a healthy cj can do who wants to prove everyone wrong from the summer trade talks.
He might make the allstar game and Dame might not.
That would be crazy!

 

Don't we already know what CJ can do? Haven't we seen if for going on 8 years now? (I'll not count his rookie season) He can get hot and carry you, he can get cold.....but won't stop shooting, but he can absolutely a ball stopper on offense either way. His defense is not very good although after a couple games, he seems at least more engaged. However, it is still three 6'4" and under guys being required to switch during the Playoffs when coaches specifically scheme for different match ups.

 

Those touches numbers don’t mean anything with just 2 games one of which was a blowout Dame didn’t have to play much in.

 

it's funny how when people see things they have liked in the first 2 games, it becomes predictive of the season. When people see things they don't like, it's
too early to make any judgements

 

not with a new coach holding him accountable. With Billups defensive style, it looks like cjs defense will be sufficient, if he keeps it kicked up a notch.

Its early though, i know.

 

Again, playoff basketball is completely different as coaches can dissect your weaknesses. In our case the glaring gap at SF. Unless Little takes a huge leap and becomes an ultra solid borderline all-star, we still har the exact same weaknesses. Billups style is refreshing and last night’s win was glorious. I just dont see how any of this deals with the problems created by LBJ, Michael Porter Jr ir any of the other forwards we will be facing come playoff time.

 

Nas and Nance.

 

Keep your stock rising CJ!

Are we getting closer to a Ben for CJ swap??

 

Nope, we are getting farther and farther away from one and it feels so good!

People are coming to their senses, stay away from Simmons!

 

You think Little and Nance can deal with Porter and LBJ and then switching onto PG's in the pick and roll? That sounds nice, but as usual, people have short memories of how utterly outclassed we've been every postseason for years, even last year with an injury-ravaged Denver team and Dame putting on a performance for the ages, we got the Gentleman's sweep in the first round.

 

we had a healthy Nas popping and Nance last year?

 

We won’t win a title with Dame and CJ

CJ and RoCo plus one #1 for Simmons

 

I’m in the “off the Ben train” camp for now.

I feel like we need to wait 15-20 games before making a decision. Was the Suns game a fluke or do they continue that defensive intensity and offensive flow?

I am willing to temporarily suspend my Dame/CJ cannot win it all belief and our playoff failures of the past. Billups is not Stotts so applying Stotts results to a Billups system is non-sensical.

I still like the idea of Ben but he is increasingly screaming “head case” and if he decided he didn’t want to play here, we see what kind of a drama queen he can be and overall team disruptor.

 

Ben is who he is. A VERY good defender, a very good passer, and excellent PnR playmaker, and a good post scorer, and he dominates the ball less than CJ in terms of 'fit' with Dame.

He does not shoot it well, and if he did, would be one of the top three players in the entire league.

As for his recent behavior, did anyone see any of this in any prior season? Or was it just when thinks went screwy, his Coach and team big man questioned how far they could go with him, and the Philly media mercilessly threw him under the bus.

So now I believe he is listening to the advice from Klutch to bring this thing to a finality. There is no history of any of this before this off-season.

 

James Harden, Kawai Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Vince Carter.....there are lots guys who have been been, shall we say, a bit shady in trying to get themselves shipped out of their respective teams. (And these are just the ones we heard about.)

Ben Simmons just isn't as good at it as a lot of these guys. He didn't get the notice for some reason that all he had to do was pretend to have a vague back injury and just be vague to the media.

I've noticed that most of these guys completely rehabilitate their reputation afterward. It's just playing the game.

The media loves the game because it generates clicks and views, so of course they push the narrative as much as they can. But I think he'll be just fine on his new team.

 

http://www.sportstwo.com/attachments/c44ea14a-b6b3-470d-abc0-628b63f7b0f9-jpeg.41174/

 

Hell no.

 

CJ and Simmons certainly are diametrically opposed.

Goldsberry stresses Simmons absurd lack of jumpers, but look at how many layups he's made!

 

are playoff games "crucial" games?

if so look at this:



I'd pay a lot more attention to results than from some 'scout' doing a drive-by shooting of Simmons' character 5 years ago

 

that chart really needs to be adjusted for shots taken. For instance, in that time frame, CJ has taken 4988 shots; Simmons has taken 3188. Cj shot 1,800 more times than Simmons and that will seriously skew that shot chart