Game Thread Game #8 - BLAZERS @ CAVALIERS - NOVEMBER 3, 2021 - WEDNESDAY; 4:00 PM (PDT), ROOT SPORTS

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Chris Craig, Nov 1, 2021.

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What is behind the Blazers Troubles On The Road?

  1. Dame Struggling

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    44.7%
  2. The Starters ( As a whole)

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    4.3%
  3. Rotations

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  4. Defense

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  5. Offense

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  6. All The Above

    23 vote(s)
    48.9%
  1. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Lillard and McCollum are hardened veterans and they are who they are. They aren't suddenly changing their style of play or shot selection because a new coach "holds them accountable," whatever that means. This simplistic notion that Stotts said, "Good job, guys, take bad shots, I love it!" while Billups will come in and tell them, "Hey, bad shots are bad, take good shots" and things will change thanks to that accountability was never realistic. What people probably didn't understand about the concept of Stotts being a "players' coach" is that he very likely built the offense around what his best players actually do well and gave Lillard, especially, input into it. This was a Stotts-Lillard combined creation and most teams want a head coach who can do that--connect with their franchise player and build an offense together that actually fits that franchise player. Billups will only be successful if he can also build an offense that actually fits what Lillard does well and what Lillard believes makes use of his skillset. It's possible but unlikely that that offense will be diametrically different to Stotts' offense, especially when you consider that it also has to fit all the other existing players. If Billups is a truly innovative offensive coach, it's possible he can pull that off--but since those coaches are very rare, the odds are against it. So the overwhelming likelihood, IMO, is that when the offense eventually stabilizes, it'll look a lot like the one the Blazers ran under Stotts.

    I don't think Stotts was an innovative coach, just a competent coach (of offense) that knew how to maximize his best players. Since the roster has largely not been filled with much talent beyond Lillard, that offense isn't going to have a whole lot of success against teams that can, in the playoffs, spend a series game-planning to limit Lillard. So it's a successful regular season offense that sputters in the playoffs. Even a great offensive coach might be able to trick his way past a team or two, but would be exposed by a strong playoff defense when you only have Lillard, a flawed secondary player like McCollum and very little else.

    Does it matter to me that Stotts is gone? Nope. But I think a lot of fans were fooled by Olshey's misdirection, focusing on the factor that can't change things substantially (the coach) and ignoring the factor that has to change in order for Portland to be a contender (the roster, which means Olshey would be the fall guy--no wonder he didn't want fans paying attention to the actual talent on hand).

    It wouldn't surprise me at all if Billups is a superior coach to Stotts. But I sincerely doubt it'll be obvious, as Billups struggles with the same impossible roster math that Stotts did.
     
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    That was my point pretty much. I would rather he took the year off and came back 100% than continue with what we have at this point.
    Another person this might actually help is Chauncey Billups getting some experience and taking some of the pressure off him while he is learning the ropes.
     
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    Nobody expected Lillard playing like this. Becky probably can't believe how lucky she was.
    Of course it is early, but I was really optimistic after first games. Horse you riding now is not relevant as Lillard was obviously in Billlups plan.
    With healthy Lillard we can go back to "can coach change it", IMO.
    CJ is different thing. He should be gone long time ago. It could probably help Stotts as well.
     
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    agreed, Dame needs to get this fixed IF it can be fixed, if he's out for season do what GS did with Klay injuries and others, be a bad team, get a high draft pick and in our case also reconstruct the roster as Roco and Nurk are ending contracts and frankly should IMO not be considered part of our future (especially Roco). And trade CJ as well, try to get the table set up better for next yr again IF Dame needs months of time.
     
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    Needs get fix period.
     
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    did we already have Ant when that proposal for PG was there? If not we likely don't get him, right?
    no brainer if we already had Ant though.
     

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