JP Losman? Huh? Never ever heard of him.Eli Manning has talent but I don't think he's going to be able to use it unless he gets a good WR on his team. Plus he has addatuite problems. Big Ben will be a solid QB throught his whole carear. They will most likely turn out like Payton Manning and Tom Brady. Ben will be good in cluch and Eli will have better stats but nothing to show for it realy.
Eli has Plaxico Burress... he has as much talent as Ben on his team, but Ben will be better.J.P Lossman shouldn't even be mentioned...
I think it's going to be Eli Manning just because... he's a Manning. He has Shockey and Burress in New York now, plus I know Peyton will help him out with whatever he needs help on.
Big Ben.....he has a great supporting cast. Manning will be sporadic with his play. JP will be solid, IMO.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KingJames_23 @ Aug 15 2005, 07:22 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think it's going to be Eli Manning just because... he's a Manning. He has Shockey and Burress in New York now, plus I know Peyton will help him out with whatever he needs help on.</div> Yes he's a Manning...Cooper Manning pwnz!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Losman2Evans @ Aug 15 2005, 12:43 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Out of the 2004 NFL Draft.JP Losman, Ben Roethlisberger, or Eli Manning?</div> Without a doubt, Ben Roethlisberger, he will become an elite QB in the NFL in lets say 3 or 4 years, and will take his team far. Also, i think he is one of those franchise players, and will never get traded away from the team that drafted him.
Ben Roethlisberger, hands down. He has shown he is the best this far, and I think he will just get better, and better if he stays healthy. Eli will improve too, and be a pretty good QB too, but I just see Big Ben having a brighter future.
Ben will be the most solid QB, He's going to get so comfortable and when he's completley used to everything It's gonna be scary how good this guy is. I'm not sold on Eli, never have been, he's way to over because of his older brother. JP Losman will be a solid QB, He's already shown great technique in the Bills/Packers scrimage and the Bills/Colts preseason game.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Eli has Plaxico Burress... he has as much talent as Ben on his team, but Ben will be better.J.P Lossman shouldn't even be mentioned...</div>Kk buddy. The Giants don't have as much talent as the Steelers. If you look back the Steelers D was number 1 last year. Was the Giants D number one? I don't think so. And The Steelers still have the Giants beat WR wise.Losman shouldn't be mentioned?Considering the fact he entered his senior year playing better than Manning, Roethlisberger, and Rivers he should. Not to mention he's got the Number 2 Defense with him and a offense that has constantly been improving. Boy, you're in for a suprise next year.
College is different than the NFL...And I was talking about the Giants offense not defense. The have a better RB, TE, and they have Plaxico.
Uhh no crap College is different than the NFL and where do NFL Players come from? College. And we're talking about Fresh players who have one season under their belts.I agree with you on RB and TE.Tiki is currently better than Willis, and Shockey is better than all our TEs combined lol. But Eric Moulds is better than Plax and Lee Evans is right up there with Plax.
Are you kidding me... J.P Losman.. You haven't heard of J.P Losman.. Well its his second year and he comes from Tulane university. He had a terrible 39.2 QB rating last year in limited action but he has ton's of potiental and although Manning and Roethlisberger will turm out better Losman is a quality quarterback.
I'd say by the looks of it, Roethlisberger. But Manning will get his shot this year to prove himself. Think about it, he is a manning. He is going to be incredibly good. Now that Eli has a different mindset, knowing he will start all 16 games, I think that changes a lot. Now he has Plax, Shockey for a whole season and Amani Toomer.
Big Ben, and now that we have a bonafide TE in Miller I think Ben just might hear his name called in Canton, OH one day if he can get a SB win.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hypnotic @ Aug 18 2005, 12:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Big Ben, and now that we have a bonafide TE in Miller I think Ben just might hear his name called in Canton, OH one day if he can get a SB win.</div> It's too early to say Ben's name under the HOF ballot in his second season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chiefsfan31 @ Aug 19 2005, 12:16 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hypnotic @ Aug 18 2005, 12:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> Big Ben, and now that we have a bonafide TE in Miller I think Ben just might hear his name called in Canton, OH one day if he can get a SB win.</div>It's too early to say Ben's name under the HOF ballot in his second season. </div> Maybe but the Steel City has produced alot of HOF, tradition.
I don't know if all these guys get into the Hall of Fame. That's for the best of the best, and I don't think these guys are going to turn into a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.There's only been one Dan Marino (who is like Peyton, so far) and one Joe Montana (who is like Brady, so far). I don't think any of these guys are going to be another one like those guys.
I have extremely high doubts on Eli, I think Roethlisberger with be the best stat wise and JP will follow. I just don't think Eli can cut it, he's had to much given to him on a silver platter. But maybe I'm wrong, we'll see.
Ben, IMO, because he already has shown people what he is capable of in his rookie seaosn, and how that he has some playoff experience, he should be able to take the steelers deeper into the playoffs, and possibly the superbowl.
