I just have to bring this up. First off, I would like to say I know Gates is young, and has a ton to prove. And in the grand scheme of things it is not really fair to compare him to Tony G this early in his career. But last years probowl inspired this thread. Gates was named the starter over Tony G in the Probowl. But the only real reason is his number of touchdowns. Now, I may be biased, but when you look at things from an overall production standpoint, Tony had a better season. Heck, he had his best season of his NFL career (yards and receptions, not sure about touchdowns) but Gates gets the green light because he caught more in the endzone. I do understand that the passing game gets harder in the redzone, the D tightens up, you have less room to work, ect. But does this make his season better than Tony G? Just curious of your thoughts. Gates is a young, and hugely talented young man. And to be honest, maybe I feel a bit threatened because I always took pride in having what seemed to be hands down the best receiving TE in the NFL. So long story short, based on what you have seen, do you think Gates will have a more productive career than Tony Gonzalez?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Stallion @ Aug 17 2005, 09:33 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>I just have to bring this up. First off, I would like to say I know Gates is young, and has a ton to prove. And in the grand scheme of things it is not really fair to compare him to Tony G this early in his career. But last years probowl inspired this thread. Gates was named the starter over Tony G in the Probowl. But the only real reason is his number of touchdowns. Now, I may be biased, but when you look at things from an overall production standpoint, Tony had a better season. Heck, he had his best season of his NFL career (yards and receptions, not sure about touchdowns) but Gates gets the green light because he caught more in the endzone. I do understand that the passing game gets harder in the redzone, the D tightens up, you have less room to work, ect. But does this make his season better than Tony G? Just curious of your thoughts. Gates is a young, and hugely talented young man. And to be honest, maybe I feel a bit threatened because I always took pride in having what seemed to be hands down the best receiving TE in the NFL. So long story short, based on what you have seen, do you think Gates will have a more productive career than Tony Gonzalez?</div> Hell no. Sorry if i'm a chiefs fan but no TE will have a career as productive as TG. He led the league in receptions, which has not been done in like 20 years. The man is double covered every possesion and he still manages to catch the ball over defenders and plow his way through. He is the most physical and he has an underrated vertical leap. He is a lock for canton. Gates is a very good tight end but I still don't see him as good as Gonzalez. Tony is #1 in the league and is still only 29 years old.
That was an intellegent post I like what you said. The fact remains Tony has been consistant the league every year he played (First year was his worst but obviously you cant hold him to that) Antiono Gates is a great young player.. In his second year he almost had 1000 yards and this year he should get up to that. He's a touchdown machine, but he has alot to learn still right now I would definitley say Tony Gonzelez is better but in time I think Gates can be as good if not better.
No, Tony Gonzalez is better now, and probably will have the upper hand when both of their careers are over too. Gates had an amazing season, hands down, but Tony is still better. Gates has a great future ahead of him, but again, I don't think he will ever be as good as Tony is/was.Tony wins this match-up, hands down.
Thanks, you guys seem to see it my way. I guess I was just shocked when Tony did not start the probowl after the season he has had. I have been a big fan ever since he rookie year. I remember going to see the Chiefs play the Steelers on Monday Night Football with my now fiancee (getting married in November) and he made an amazing catch and I looked at her and said "Who is that?" I was just stunned. I knew he was going to be a major factor in our teams furture. Anyhow, just showing my pride I guess!
Tony Gonzelez, Trent Green, and Priest Holmes. I think Gonzelez is a lock. Im not sure about Green or Holmes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FootballDan @ Aug 19 2005, 12:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Tony Gonzelez, Trent Green, and Priest Holmes. I think Gonzelez is a lock. Im not sure about Green or Holmes.</div> Try, Tony Gonzalez, Will Shields, Willie Roaf. Two of the best offensive linemen ever.
^ I agree! Green and Holmes are good enough players, but it took too long into their career to be given a chance. I think if Holmes had been starting since his rookie season, he would also be a future HOFer, but I dont think he will do enough with the time he has left to reach that status.
I don't really think you can look at stats for offensive linemen...but they are two very good ones...
I have to say Tony Gonzalez because he does more than Gates. He blocks more and does the other things. Gates basically only catches.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ward86 @ Aug 25 2005, 02:05 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>I have to say Tony Gonzalez because he does more than Gates. He blocks more and does the other things. Gates basically only catches.</div> Nah man, Gates is a good blocker too and likes to block.But I'll go with Tony G, he's been so consistently good over the course of his career. There's also so much you can do with him, you can move him outside the wide receiver or what ever. Then Antonio Gates had just a monsterous year, but we'll have to see this year what he can do. The thing is sometimes he can get frustrated when there's a double team on him while Tony Gonzalez usually will not.
