OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. calvin natt

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    When the numbers show that people are dying at the same rate as vaccinated I’ll stop with them
     
    calvin natt, Dec 3, 2021
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    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Same as I do over annual flu shots. Mild nuisance.
     
    crandc, Dec 3, 2021
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  3. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Probably fine within a day

    The vaccine just makes you feel sick. You are not actually sick. It just tricks your body to react a certain way so that if you do get covid it is not a stranger to your immune system.

    I have had no problem with feeling sick for a half a day or a day, knowing that I am better protected against Covid.
     
    Chris Craig, Dec 3, 2021
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    uh…. Yeah…. No basis for you to answer this question.
     
    BLAZINGGIANTS, Dec 3, 2021
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    Get my booster at the VA in the morning....wife scheduled for the 15th to get hers...we'll both be glad to get it done
     
    riverman, Dec 3, 2021
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Alive.
     
    e_blazer, Dec 4, 2021
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    The American Heart Association has announced that the mRNA shots, any of them, will increase your chances of getting heart disease by 11% - 25%.
     
    MARIS61, Dec 4, 2021
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    Fact Check-Research abstract is not reliable evidence of a link between mRNA vaccines and heart disease


    A research abstract cited by commentators as proof that COVID-19 vaccines increase a person’s risk of heart disease has raised multiple concerns from experts.

    The 319-word abstract, published in the American Heart Association journal Circulation, claims its research has found mRNA vaccines “dramatically increase” inflammation in endothelium cells and T cell infiltration in the heart.

    This inflammation, it says, “may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination” (here).

    Commentators on British television and social media have since cited the research as the “death bell” for mRNA vaccines (see here), or as reliable proof to back up anonymous sources and alleged anecdotal evidence of vaccine-related heart disease (see here).

    However, multiple experts have raised criticisms of the abstract, which does not detail a full study and has not been peer-reviewed.


    The American Heart Association published an “expression of concern” in its journal on Nov. 24 to warn that the passage may not be reliable and that a “suitable correction” was needed (here).

    It added: “Specifically, there are several typographical errors, there is no data in the abstract regarding myocardial T-cell infiltration, there are no statistical analyses for significance provided, and the author is not clear that only anecdotal data was used.”

    Multiple other experts have expressed similar sentiments online (here , here and here), including one who shared parts of a presentation about the abstract and said it lacked data and any references, and was only written by one person (here).

    Reuters has reached out to the abstract author, Dr Steven Gundry, who is a former cardiothoracic surgeon and now promotes nutritious ways to avoid surgery, as well as running a private restorative medicine practice. He was not immediately available for comment.

    Reuters has previously addressed claims about COVID-19 vaccines and heart issues here and here.

    VERDICT
    Missing context. The research abstract does not provide reliable evidence that mRNA vaccines increase risk of heart disease.

    This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work here .

    https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...mrna-vaccines-and-heart-disease-idUSL1N2SH1HN



     
    SlyPokerDog, Dec 4, 2021
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    Not on AHA web site.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    BFD. Already there dude……….
     
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    Y'all can call me triple vax now.....so far no reactions....got in early and all done now!
     
    riverman, Dec 4, 2021
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    My heart improved after my first vaccination......I have heart disease and my heart doctors are all vaccinated as well....you may get heart disease by drinking alcohol, smoking, or more likely....stress. the fact is the American diet is leaning towards heart disease....as someone who's recovered from heart disease long before the pandemic....I'm not worried at all. Nor are the heart care professionals who saved my life. According to anti vaxxers I should be dead already with a bum ticker , late 60s and being vaccinated....sorry ...that's not reality although that fear propoganda has been floating around for a couple years
     
    riverman, Dec 4, 2021
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    You shouldn't be worried. But a 25% increase for a healthy young person is significant.
     
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    My 20 year old granddaughter got covid early and now she's going to have asthmatic conditions for maybe life....choices...I'm glad she's alive though...her sister got it too without the long term lung problems but there are a lot of things that can increase young people's risk of heart issues and I guarantee most of them are going to partake of things that contribute to those issues...I have many young relatives and friends and not one case of inflamed heart tissue has been detected...you may compound your risk with a poor diet, no excercise and a stressful lifestyle with booze and tobacco in the mix...also those studies are from the same folks who said smoking was ok for decades and sugar is healthy....I'll trust my doctors on this issue.....my son and his wife have not had any issues and they just turned 30....I trust the vaccines. Modern medicine has saved my life 3 times....I don't argue with it
     
    riverman, Dec 4, 2021
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    lol. Poor Maris, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
     
    noknobs, Dec 4, 2021
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    There are currently over 30,000 American deaths caused directly by the mRNA shots, according to the CDC. This is nearly double the total of ALL deaths caused by ALL vaccines ever used anywhere throughout the history of the world combined. In less than a year.

    Wake up.
     
    MARIS61, Dec 4, 2021
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    LOL. Reuters "fact check". :biglaugh:
     
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