Rumor What's going on in Portland?

It was last year, they may have left that immediate the area. They were not on 23rd but down Northrup a few blocks. It was during the time of the protest too.

 

Our eye doctor is between 19th and 20th.

 

https://fortune.com/2021/12/06/housing-market-slowing-heading-into-2022/amp/

 

Straight up Mad Max out there…

 

https://katu.com/amp/news/local/por...ited-officer-responses-following-i-5-incident

 

OH WELL.

 

Here’s what it takes to be considered ‘rich’ in Portland

 

Thousands in Oregon face eviction as lawmakers scramble.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/rea...n-as-lawmakers-scramble/ar-AARGyrF?li=BBnb7Kz

 

Wow, if you read this thread, you’d think we’d be tucked in between Detroit and Memphis.

 

Feels like it. I mean really, we get you are a proud Portlander. But acting like things aren’t bad is weird. Shootings are up higher than anywhere in the nation, that’s a fact. The tents, trash, never been like this. I’m not sure how this is debatable.

 

Yikes. Spending so much time in Hawaii, I am not surprised, but for Oregon to be #4 is a bit surprising to me.

Oregon has a higher rate of people experiencing homelessness than nearly every other state in America. A 2020 federal review found that 35 people in Oregon are experiencing homelessness per 10,000. Only three states had a higher rate: New York City (47 people per 10,000), Hawaii (46 people per 10,000) and California (41 people per 10,000).

Now, an estimated 8,355 households are are at risk of eviction, as protections keeping them housed have expired after they waited for rental assistance for more than two months. More than 22,000 households are still waiting to be considered for help.

 

Portland is spending $117 million on the homeless in 2021. At $1650 (average apartment price in Portland) that's enough to house over 5900 people.

Studios are much less expensive, but I couldn't find decent numbers on the average price for just studios. But you could put multiple people in a multiple room apartment.

Estimates say Portland has about 3000 - 5000 homeless.

 

Spending has been increasing every year. This is what Portland has budgeted. It's legitimately enough spending to house twice as many people. You can house people for far less than $20k per year.

Some estimates have Portland spending over $70k per year per homeless person right now, when including the police, emergency services, damage, sweeping crews, etc...

It's just notable that we could literally save millions by giving each of these people the same multi room apartment you or I would happily rent.

And yet we aren't solving it...

 

I still do not get this.

okay so we spend whatever to house them. They still have no job, no food, no clothes.

Many homeless have mental issues or drug problems. These problems will continue even with a roof over thier head, so much of the costs will still be the same plus the costs rentals for a roof.
To say the problem is solved( no im not saying your said this) by putting the homeless under a roof is dramatically oversimplifying the multifaceted aNd complex problem with the homeless.

So lets say we put the addicts in a rehab program:

Some inpatient rehabsmay cost around $6,000 for a 30-day program. Well-known centers often cost up to $20,000 for a 30-day program. For those requiring 60- or 90-day programs, the total average of costs could range anywhere from $12,000 to $60,000.

This cost is alot more than your numbers. And tbis is just for the rehab probram. Not the house, food, clothes, etc.

When an officer goes on a call and it involves a homeless drug addict person committing a crime, are all of hours spent added to “the spent on homeless”? Spent on “illegal drug addiction” or spent on the “crime commited?”

If all the time is allotted to “spent on the homeless”, then its skewed.



Soooo many x factors ive pointed out here and before that i do not belwive there is any way they can come up with an accurate nimber of what is spent on the homeless vs ahat we would save housing them.

and before you point to other places as a successful test, lets focus on here, where ww have more homeless than any other state, which makes it harder, a larger drug addiction problem, which makes it harder, etc.


just not seeing the numbers add up. At all.

its really easy to say “improve education Nd health cRw and we solve most problems”


Improving education and health care is not as easy as you continually try to portray, or we would have done it long long ago.

 

You’d have to find any post from me saying things aren’t bad. My whole thing was, if you don’t live here fuck off. Start a thread about your little town where you live in. Beaverton , Gresham, Oregon city wherever, my only posts in here I’ve been sharing with people are my experiences of my hometown. On a side note, my house’s value has gone up 30K the past 60 days.

 

What if we drive through PDX regularly, work downtown, etc? But don’t have a Portland address? Cant criticize the city still?