OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Yes you can. I can't play in the WNBA, even if I were good enough.
     
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    And with a little work Shaq could play in the WNBA. Wouldn't that be something?
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    You are not a woman. It is a woman's league. They can't exclude a woman from playing in the league, whether she's biologically one or a transgendered one.

    If you transitioned or self-identified, you should be eligible. I'm not sure if there are a biological definition of a woman in the WNBA.
     
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    If I'm not eligible as a man then that is discrimination by gender. By definition.

    Nobody is suggesting transgender or self identitified people should be excluded from playing a sport, just that they be required to play at the highest level their professional status would allow. So HS athletes should be allowed to play vs HS boys. College athletes would be allowed to play men's college sports until they turned pro... Etc.

    If you can't compete against men then you aren't skilled or talented enough to compete.
     
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    The same men who, for years, derided women's sports, ridiculed female athletes' looks and sexuality, questioned whether some were really women, are now so all fired concerned about girls' and women's sports? Not to the point of wanting equal funding at high school and college level, or equal pay for female pro athletes. No, their supposed concern is all about banning trans girls and women. And for good measure, banning them from public restrooms, which have nothing to do with sports.
    Not buying.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Is a transgender woman a woman?
     
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    A transgendered women.
     
  8. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    So then she is a woman. And can play women's sports.
     
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    She's a man that went through a transition to a women. In this case with the swimmer, she was a competitive swimmer as a man, on the mens team. Do you think she has an advantage as already an athlete competing against women? I would say yes.
    And in this case, even the women competitors are saying she does have an advantage.
     
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    She is a woman. She should be able to compete as a woman.
     
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    If it was totally fair why dont you see women competing against men more. Its because they know it isn't totally fair. Yep there are men that couldn't beat a woman at any sport and there are women that could compete with men.
    Why is it wrong to consider fairness in sports? How about we leave it up to women to decide what should be allowed in their sport.
    My senior grandson would not be allowed to play girls HS softball, not because men make those rules but it's women that do, for women's sports.
     
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    I pitched fast pitch softball for decades and men throw from 46' and women 43'. Women play with a smaller diameter ball too. These are rules made by women not men.
     
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    Again, is this really a problem?

    So far this is one transgender woman on a college swim team.
     
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    I'm for all of those things... And again, my stance is in defense of what the women I've spoken to have told me.

    My daughters play and train against boys all the time. It's made them better, but an average boy is so much stronger and more athletic than even elite girls... It's just not competition.
     
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    It's certainly worth discussing. She is setting records that are making a mockery of those who came before.

    It's not a problem for me, but I can see why it would be for people who compete in that sport, and especially those whose records are being shattered.
     
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    In Missouri a transgender man won a $4 million settlement against his former school district. He began transition at 10, before puberty, and played several sports on boys' teams until he was forced off when banned from locker room. He was also banned from restrooms. A separate one stall restroom was allocated only for him. He charged gender discrimination and intentional infliction of emotional distress, in shorter term, abuse
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    That settlement was well deserved. A person deserves to compete at their proper level, and there was no competitive advantage.

    Hopefully the school district learned its lesson...
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Which bathroom does she use when in North Carolina?
     
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