OT White Woman Calls Black Cop The N-Word, Dares Him To Shoot Her And He Obliges

Two things:

That woman is CLEARLY suffering from some kind of mental illness.

If the races had been reversed people would be climbing the fucking walls right now.

 

This dude also had forever to figure out a less than lethal option to use on this one. It took a solid minute for this to play out. It's not like he walked in the door and she charged at him. The cop should, at the very least, lose his job. I don't know if she was trying to do suicide by cop, or if she was just too unwell to know any better, but she didn't deserve to die. I don't care what she called him. She didn't deserve to die.

 

Totally justified. He gave her every opportunity to stay alive.

 

That’s one way to thin the herd I guess.

 

Except that she was:

1. Mentally Ill
2. High on Drugs
3. Both

There was definitely a scenario where she was neutralized without having to use lethal rounds on her.

 

If a person can twist their perspective to the point that it's ok for the government to torture and murder civilians when non lethal and non torturous alternatives are available then there is no limit to how twisted that person's perspective can become.

 

This was murder.
Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not collect $200

 

She charged at him with scissors. At that point, him shooting her is self defense.

You want to de-escalate shit, call Mr. Rogers.

 

Her mental state has no relevance whether or not she was a threat to this officer.

 

He gave her every opportunity to comply.

Told her multiple times to drop the weapon.

She moved from an area with a physical barrier to one without one.

He warned her if he comes at him with the scissors he will put her down.

She charged at him.

 

It didn't escalate to a deadly force situation until she came around the counter with the scissors in her hand, which put her in a position to potentially attack the cop. He warned her that if she came around the counter with the scissors he would kill her. We might wish for other outcomes, but what he did is consistent with most police departments' deadly force policies. Mental illness or being under the influence of drugs does not mean that she was incapable of stabbing the police officer with the scissors. Police officers are not required to risk personal physical injury in such instances.

Here's an excerpt from a similar incident in Seattle a few years back. There are a couple of differences in this case in that it was a white cop and a black female, and she had a knife instead of scissors:

"Many people have asked why Officers Jason Anderson or Steven McNew fired their weapons on Charleena Lyles, a petite mother of four who was reportedly wielding a knife.

Stuckey personally sat in on Anderson's interrogation with the Force Investigation Team. He said Anderson had both a baton and pepper spray on him. But to use either of them on a knife wielding suspect would have been violating department policy.

"You are supposed to meet deadly force with deadly force," said Stuckey. "If someone pulls a knife out on you, your mindset is that you're going to get cut. But you got to stop the threat, and you're going to use whatever force necessary to stop the threat. And there are times when to stop that threat, you are going to use deadly force."

Stuckey points out that Seattle police officers are trained to have two officers for backup if they're going to use what they call "less than lethal force."

"If I'm going to use my taser, baton, or pepper spray, then someone needs to be standing by with a lethal option in case that less than lethal doesn't work," he said.

The third officer is needed to go "hands on" with a suspect to cuff them once they're down."

https://www.king5.com/article/news/...icers-are-trained-for-knife-attacks/451073680

 

I feel like both reactions can be true here. Probably could have found a way to handle this without shooting her dead. Also he was within the rules and had every reason to shoot her. People gotta stop fucking around and paying the consequences sucks for them. I still have to think there are times when you shoot someone in the leg. I know, don’t shoot your gun unless you are shooting to kill but a small lady with scissors? Take out a knee cap and problem solved.

 

Self defense.

if he had a taser on him he probably should have tried that if another officer was close by. If not he did what he had to do to ensure he would not get stabbed.

Cop did his job. Unfortunate outcome but he is not at fault.

 

Tasers don't always put someone down. Its kill or be killed.