I voted for Klobuchar in the primary. I didn't want Biden. I voted for him only after he became the nominee. Ironically, the Republicans who the blue collar workers might turn to are a far worse party for them. The Republicans raise their taxes while giving the rich big breaks. But, Trump loves the uneducated. There is responsibility on both sides though for a lack of enthusiasm among blue collar voters. Neither is helping enough with keeping jobs in America. Blue collar workers keep losing jobs to overseas workers, where labor is cheaper. Both parties often mention the middle and upper class, but hardly if ever the blue collar, lower class.
I'm always puzzled by the suggestion that the DNC is some powerful organization that bends candidates and voters to its will. It seems quite toothless to me. Who are these people? What is their source of power? How do they go about wielding the power? barfo
Yeah, I'm not blaming one party, though the Republicans are certainly the bigger problem. I just don't think the democrats have a strategy which can improve things. To the point that it seems like they don't want to...
Sure, but I was asking about the supposed actual source of power, not the right-wing propaganda line. barfo
Time for change as most people dont like the two party system anyway. The lack of bi partisan coalitions causes congressional gridlock and stifles competition by being sold out to media. America's two major political parties are simply too big https://www.msnbc.com › msnbc › america-s-two-majo...
They are establishment moderate democrats. They do things like give certain candidates questions ahead of time, change the rules so certain candidates look like they are receiving less support than others, etc, etc. They are free to do basically anything they want to make the primary work the way they want.
Agreed Democrats need to stop pussyfooting around and trying to play Mr Nice guy in the hopes the Republicans will grow a moral bone in their body and follow suit.
Yes. Democrats don't end up getting bills passed or nominees for the SC or other courts, etc through and the Republicans get back power and they do what they want...they do the same things they escoriate the Democrats for.... Don't do that...how dare you even think of doing that...your terrible if you do that...but we are doing it and it's cool if we do it. Then you have corporations in cahoots with Republicans....to lower prices and give raises, and make things look good, and then the Dems get in, and the corporations make them look like they are doing a terrible job by raising prices and firing people, etc.
On the first example, I presume you are talking about Donna Brazile. Agreed on that one, although that's a single occurrence not an established pattern as far as I know. On the second example, not sure what you have in mind? barfo
The DNC is staffed almost entirely by establishment moderate democrats. They actually had a rule that allowed them to show the super delegate (establishment dems) counts before voting actually took place, making it appear that non establishment candidates had no chance. Bernie Sanders made a big enough stink about and had enough political capital, that they were forced to change that. But they've been trying to figure out how to roll the changes back. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/31/dnc-superdelegates-110083
Is it? I don't know most of those people, but there are at least a couple there that don't sound very establishment. That doesn't make them sound all-powerful. That makes it sound like Bernie had the power and exercised it. barfo
Bernie had the power after they screwed him twice and it bacame public, and he didn't go away. I didn't say they were all powerful. Just that they are biased and have levers they can pull to give their chosen candidate an edge. They still have to convince people to vote for their guy. And they will use the tools at their disposal to do that. It will take an incredibly strong and popular candidate to overcome that. And it will take an almost saintly (or crazy) person to resist the machine.
