OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I just delivered a covid test to a mother of 4 for her 8yr old kid who is sick. She and her kids are isolated at home. Her other kids aren't sick. She isn't sick. She wants the test to see if her 8yr old has covid because some of the kid's classmates have covid and he is sick. She needs more information in order to know what to do for her kid that is sick and for the rest of the members of her family. Seems reasonable.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I said you've been pushing conspiracies. Because you have.

    I didn't call you anything.

    But this does show how you like to twist actual events to fit your narrative.

    But you know what. I should be nicer to you. You've obviously been duped by some charlatan again. I should be feeling sorry for you rather than attempting to engage in discussion anyway.

    So sure. As long as we can stack more people into a hospital covid-19 cases in hospitals might not be a problem.

    Heck, maybe when we run out of floor space we can try cord wood style?

    And don't ever listen to doctors or scientists. They are only out to get you.
     
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  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    This podcast is worth a listen It really is. Especially Mike's email from his mother part.

    https://www.podbean.com/ew/dir-7yuxa-1204b551
     
  5. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Limited hospital capacity leaves patients waiting for surgeries

    LINCOLN, Neb. (KOLN) - Rising COVID-19 hospitalizations are limiting access to healthcare of all kinds, from visits to urgent care which are now appointment only, to the ability to transfer to hospitals better equipped for critical care, to elective surgeries.

    Over two years of fighting COVID-19, elective surgeries have been paused on and off. Doctors and patients alike tell 10/11 NOW, they’re growing tired of this practice, that was unheard of prior to the pandemic.

    Right now, Bryan Health is postponing classes of surgeries that can be postponed between four to 12 weeks without adverse affects to the patient.

    “Imagine a cancer patient who has a vascular disease, mild leg pain and in need of a bypass,” Dr. John Trapp, Chief Medical Officer for Bryan Health said. “If it required an overnight stay today we would defer that surgery. The challenge is we’ve been saying that since August.”

    Between March 2020 and September 2021, Bryan Health postponed 1,200 procedures and sent many more out to out-patient surgical centers. In just the last three and a half months, the hospital system has cut in-patient surgical stays by 10-15% to make room for other patients.

    “When we have basically no hospital capacity already, no additional beds and patients waiting for transfers that need care, bringing in patients that don’t need to be in the hospital for a surgery that could be delayed, that would take a bed for one to five days, not doing those surgeries, that’s how we gain beds,” Dr. Trapp said.

    But delaying surgeries isn’t without consequence.

    10/11 NOW talked with a Lincoln patient who is currently waiting on a tumor in her uterus to be removed. She wanted to remain anonymous to protect her health information, but she told 10/11 the tumor was discovered in June 2021 and the surgery to remove it keeps getting postponed.

    “I feel like I’m in between a rock and a hard place,” the patient told 10/11 NOW. “I’m a single mom of two kids and it’s a scary thing. I’m all alone and it feels like it’s not being taken seriously.”

    She told 10/11 NOW scans show the tumor is malignant and growing. The fear has weighed significantly on her mental health.

    “You don’t want to bother them (the doctors) because you know they’re so busy, but at the same time it’s like I’m a patient too,” she said.

    Dr. Trapp said it’s not an easy choice for doctors to make.

    “It’s frustrating to the patient, it’s frustrating for the provider,” Dr. Trapp said. “As this goes on some cases get more difficult and more gut wrenching to make the decision to decide to do surgeries sooner or later. Those are really challenging decisions to weigh the value of getting a surgery done now or providing a bed.”

    Dr. Trapp said there are also physical impacts.

    “These patients may do well for a period of time but if pain increases, if there’s a new problem or a wound develops, the patient made need surgery more urgently,” Dr. Trapp said. “Delays can require more intensive care, longer hospitalizations and sometimes adverse outcomes we couldn’t anticipate.”

    Bryan Health said emergency room visits are up because providers are trying to manage patient symptoms without surgeries.

    Dr. Trapp said there’s no easy solution for these problems.

    “We need to get open beds so we can have patients in the hospital to get necessary procedures done,” he said. “We also need workforce, nurses, technicians to be available.”

    Until then, patients have to wait for surgeries that don’t feel “elective” to them.

    “It’s terrifying,” the patient 10/11 NOW spoke to said. “You have to put your faith in God and take it one day at a time.”

    https://www.1011now.com/2022/01/18/limited-hospital-capacity-leaves-patients-waiting-surgeries/
     
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  6. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Use alternate addresses. Stockpile, bro.
     
  7. SlyPokerDog

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    It's an hour and 15mins, I'm not going to listen to it. Why not just make your point?
     
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    Hopefully they will all be accurate. No false positives.
     
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    Blah blah blah. 100% capacity or it doesn't matter.
     
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  11. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    False positives happen. It's not gonna be perfect for every single test.

    If you thought that was possible... Yikes.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Imagine someone coming in and saying "you're not full enough! Do my surgery!"

    Then yell something about entitlement without a hint of self-awareness.
     
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  13. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Lol

    It's only 99% it's not 100%, nothing to see here.

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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    False-positives and false-negatives are happening all over the place. And from those results, decisions are boing made - such as contact tracing, quarantining, etc. In the case of Rowe's mother, who shared that she has always been super, super careful from the beginning of the outbreak, (i.e. no close contact with others, wearing double masks, vaccine, vaccine booster, second booster, live-stream church, etc., etc.), she was still diagnosed with COVID. She had no symptoms. Meanwhile, her husband had a cough, (the reason they stood in line for 3 hours to get tested) yet was diagnosed negative. At any rate, as they live in a retirement facility, they were instructed to contact trace and quarantine. She's had zero symptoms all along. A very frustrating experience for the both f them.
     
  15. SlyPokerDog

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    The horrors.

    So his mom had asymptomatic covid and her husband didn't?

    And they live in a retirement facility?

    And they were both asked to stay home which they were already doing?

    So outrageous!
     
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    The tests have stopped the spread in workplaces where my daughter in law works and got her working remotely from an office at home until it's safe to interract again...the result kept her whole team covid free as well as their families and the one person who got it quarantined and got better.....it's simple. I understand your view but the tests have protected people from infecting others...some with compromised immune systems ..good luck with the public contact man....you're a lot braver than I am. I hope it's all washed out in the spring here...South Africa has seen it go dormant so far and we're a couple months behind them but they lost something like 55k people immediately when it hit..testing helped them get to this point. I'm of the better safe than sorry mindset about safety protocols
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    She probably doesn't have it. I put as much faith in these tests as you put in Trump.
     
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    In that case you should absolutely refuse to get them....let people who value them get them in your place and then donate to Trump's defense fund.
     
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  19. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    As mentioned, I'm going best 4-of-7. There's safety in numbers.
     
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    GO OUT AND RISK YOURSELVES!

    because everyone should just assume it's a false positive or a false negative.

    Seriously... Have people forgotten about the fucking basics of science? It's absurd.
     

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