OT Why Never Trumpers Should Bet on DeSantis Now

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  1. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Doing something right, like keeping Black people from voting.
     
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    DeNazi
     
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    Makes sense.

    Conservatives reject it, saying it is a world view derived from Marxism that divides society by defining people as oppressors and oppressed based on their race. They call it an attempt to rewrite American history and make white people believe they are inherently racist.

    The bill reads in part, “An individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, does not bear responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex. An individual should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.”

    The bill is called “Individual Freedom." Republican Sen. Manny Diaz, its sponsor, said it is not about ignoring the “dark” parts of American history, but rather ensuring that people are not blamed for sins of the past.

    “No individual is inherently racist, sexist or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously, solely by the virtue of his or her race or sex,” Diaz said. “No race is inherently superior to another race.”

    Jones said DeSantis is playing to his conservative base by pushing the legislation, but wouldn't go so far as to say DeSantis himself is racist.

    “The governor will continue to go across the country with his racist rhetoric on critical race theory ... It's a problem that doesn't exist,” Jones said. "I think the governor's policies that he continues to push are racist."

    Asked for comment, the governor's spokeswoman reiterated comments DeSantis made at a news conference last month in which he referred to the late civil rights activist Martin Luther King Jr.

    DeSantis said at the time, “You think about what MLK stood for, ‘He said he didn’t want people judged on the color of their skin but on the content of their character. You listen to some of these people nowadays, they don’t talk about that.’ ”

    Oh, and we all know that Farrington is a champion for the right.

    https://thecapitolist.com/the-wrap-ap-writes-dumb-desantis-story-gets-dumb-response/
     
  5. Chris Craig

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    It makes sense that DeSantis and other Republicans are trying to whitewash history to preserve their feelings.

    White people held black people as slaves. They forced them to work, they berated them, they beat them, they raped them, they sold them like groceries, they treated them as less than human, they killed them as they pleased.

    Then when some white people became afraid they were going to lose the black people they owned, they ceded and a war broke out.

    Black people were "freed."

    When that war was lost, black people were forced to use their own schools, restaurants, bathrooms, water fountains, etc. They were still subjected to slurs and often killed by coward white people in masks and robes, including Emmet Till.

    Segregation ended as a matter of progression, and the civil rights era came. Many died fighting for rights for black people including MLK and Malcolm X.

    Despite segregation being over black people were still separated via ghettos.

    Progress has been slow. We have finally had a black president and VP.

    And now people like DeSantis want to erase this history. It can't be erased. It's a stain, a bloody stain. It will be forever memorial, a testament to what was.

    DeSantis can talk all he wants about not wanting there to be oppressers and oppressed, but when he is openly oppressing black people with this law and other voting laws and by closing voting centers, etc etc. he can shove it up his ass.

    MLK did say everyone should be judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. He wasn't saying we need to erase history, but to remember it, to be stirred by it, to be humbled by it, so that we can treat each other better, so that we never return there again.

    And DeSantis and others want to bend his words to assauge the egos of white people? Fuck that. We should be ashamed of what happened.
     
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    Great post Chris
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    "The Emancipation Proclamation, or Proclamation 95, was a presidential proclamation and executive order issued by United States President Abraham Lincoln on September 22, 1862, during the Civil War."
     
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    His own gestapo
     
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    I was nine when my parents gave me a children's book about Little Rock desegregation. Reading about abuse those Black students endured made me uncomfortable. I was 12 when I was given Children of Vietnam. Explicit pictures and descriptions of napalm. I was very uncomfortable. At 13 they gave me Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Reading what happened in Nazi death camps made me uncomfortable. As you might have guessed, my parents did not believe in sheltering children from the real world. Presumably DeathSantis woul ban these books.
    As Joy Reid put it, if reading about it makes you uncomfortable, how did those who lived through it feel?
    Remember the chorus of people on the right ridiculing so called liberal snowflakes?
    I guess if you don't like the snow, move to Florida.
     
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    All in the family. A great place to discuss these things. Parents really need to be more involved with their children. Glad yours were.
     
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    I was 14 when taken to see King Lear. The scene I remember half a century later was a character having his eyes gouged our and actor's agonized screams.
    Yes, I had highly educated parents. Not everyone does, ABM. Are you opposed to teaching these things in school? So students who did not grow up with educated parents with houseful of books, who go see Shakespeare plays, are just left uneducated about these very uncomfortable aspects of human history and literature?
     
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    A Florida county has placed county public health officer on leave pending investigation and possible termination for strongly recommending staff get Covid vaccine. Florida freedumb.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I posted this in another thread. It's not that I'm not staying in touch. I am.

    http://www.sportstwo.com/posts/5296761/
     
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    DeathSantis is proposing a law that would allow parents to sue teachers if they teach about LGBTQ issues in ways parents disapprove. Many disapprove any teaching, beyond "die, sinners".
    Florida freedumb.
     
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    More Florida freedumb. A bill in legislature would impose criminal penalties against any professional sports team if Star Spangled Banner not played before games. Most already do but sometimes a team selects an alternative song. Wearing a piece of cloth over ones face an insurmountable assault on liberty, dictating how private business show patriotism....
     
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    Yesterday Nazis held a (small) rally in Orlando. They changed racist and anti-Semitic slogans, waved swastikas and "let's go Brandon" banners, and harassed passersby.

    DeSantis said nothing. Neither did Marco Rubio.

    DeSantis spokesperson questioned whether they were really nazis or just Democrats pretending to be nazis to make Florida look bad. She claimed this happened in Virginia, a claim that has been debunked.

    DeSantis also refused to say anything about a terrorist holding a synagogue hostage in Texas because he said it's not a Florida issue.

    He is working to ban books on Holocaust and on racism if they make white people uncomfortable, and to ban anything gay. Literally called "can't say gay" bill.

    So this is who ABM wants as president?
     
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    Trot out whatever you'd like. I'll send you a batch of cookies when I get around to it.

    By the way, we were at the South Beach Art-Deco District last Saturday. You'd be entirely impressed.

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    Send me cookies? You know the expression carrying coals to Newcastle?

    But nice way to avoid issue. Again.
     
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    Trump or DeSantis it’s all the same 746AFDF6-21CA-42CE-9026-5B152D316E43.jpeg
     
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    DeSantis claimed that the "jack****s" who demonstrated on the overpass would be held accountable by law enforcement. He also vowed to sign the strongest antisemitism bill in the country.
     

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