So basically IP17: Requires and permit and firearms training to buy a gun Creates a database for said permits Bans magazines over 10 rounds IP18: Bans semiautomatic weapons but let's those who already own them keep them as long as they notify the state police. I get being upset with the magazines and semis being banned ...though you keep your guns. Why shouldn't people take a safety course or have a permit if they have a gun? We already have concealed carry permits here which have a database.
It will lead the state and feds to identify everyone by numbers. Imagine having one number associated with your name that could bring up things like your taxes, credit, different shit like that.
Good point But we are already all identified by numbers Social Security Numbers, driver's licence numbers on etc. Big brother has been watching I guess it's a matter of how much do we want them to watch.
Most hunting rifles made in the last 50-75 years are semiautomatic... This proposal makes absolutely no sense.
Selling too many hunting licenses is up to the ODFW... Sell fewer and you'll have more Mule deer. Nobody's rights need restricted.
The problem though is that guns already exist and are everywhere. At this point all any legal gun owner wants is to have the means to protect themselves and their family from the carnage you described, which many of us on both sides of this argument have indeed witnessed and would not like to be on the receiving end of. If you could snap your fingers and make it to where guns never existed, hell yeah I’m on board. Unfortunately that’s not the reality we live in. I don’t really know what the answer is, but as long as we live in a country full of crazy people I don’t intend to be easy prey.
You get to keep them But yeah says one thing and then the other. Basically it's to stop them from being manufactured or sold here.
Nope. My numbers included Australia. US violent crime and murder rates have dropped just as much as Australia. And twice as much as the UK. While the US has more than doubled the number of guns and let the assault weapons ban expire. Australia actually has more guns now than they did when instituted their sweeping gun legislation.
So it's pointless and has no chance of passing. More people are killed with blunt objects than are killed with rifles of any kind. I'd much rather be shot with a semiautomatic rifle than beaten to death with a bat... 4x as many are killed by knives... https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls
The problem with "my" numbers is that everyone will always use a metric that supports their argument. For instance the murder rate in the US is 5x more than Australia and 4x more than the UK. Homicide by firearm is 30x greater in the US than Australia. Also Japan literally has zero firearm homicides and the US has 13x more overall murders. The US has 280 more school shootings than the next country on the list, which is Mexico at 8. People kill each other on purpose and accident but to pretend guns play no role in that and don't make it easier is beyond head in the sand thinking.
I don't buy the argument that the problem is too bad, so let's do nothing. If we did something 20 years ago the problem would not be this bad today. And if we do something (anything) today then the problem will be less bad in 20 years. Also let's not pretend that people are realisticlly asking for or expecting a complete ban on all firearms and to disarm law abiding citizen. That's just a red herring
