Yeah if we don't trade CJ for a forward I will actually be all over firing Cronin. If he trades CJ and gets real value I'm willing to reconsider. This trade was absolutely, positively HORRIBLE. It was just a salary dump and a shitty, SHITTY one at that. We traded 2 firsts for Roco and turn around and trade him for a 2nd and a marginal player? DA FUQ?!?!?! Not to mention trading Trent for a rental as it turns out in Powell. Simply unreal and a Western conference rival no less. Absolutely horrible trade.
It seems to me you do the CJ trade first. Did this clear up cap room to take back a larger contract (SIMMONS PLEASE GOD)? I just don't get it. I see zero upside to this. Is there something about the cap I'm missing when we have to keep Bledsoe next season?!!??!
have you watched the team play without dame, cj mccollum & powell that was balanced starting unit, players fitted well with each other, but obviously there wasnt enough talent, so the goal is to do the same, but with enough talent to compete trading for powell was a mistake from the roster contruction point, he was never going to start at shooting guard position with cj mccollum on the team and they never planned on using him as a backup and him playing at small forward was a failure, add to that emergance of little and simons, he had no place on this team going forward and the same goes for cj mccollum, either he or simons need to get traded, but it will surely be cj mccollum we can argue about the return we got for roco & powell, but them being gone is actually a good thing for the team, its a step in the right direction we already know three starters for the next season: dame lillard, ant & little, well see what theyre gonna do with nurk and power forward position (we know that nurk fits well with dame and we know that he fitted well with ant & little, so they should re-sign nurk, as i dont see how they can get anyone thats better player or better fit than nurk)... neil olshey made panic moves (two 1sts for roco, 1st for larry nance jr, trade for powell which turned out to be utter failure), joe cronin isnt doing panic moves, he just made what it looks like a smart move, aiming for a balanced roster, a team thats good fit together
I'm depressed about the direction of the team right now. I've been thinking about it, going around the web to see other opinions, I just don't see how this trade can be used to advance the Blazers as a competitor in the next few years. I haven't felt this drained about a Blazer move since the trade for Felton. Figures, because this might be the most unenjoyable Blazer team to watch since the Felton-Crawford team.
yeah, I agree I see some people doing real contortions of logic to try and justify this trade because of the supposed followup deal(s) that will retroactively make this trade better and prove Cronin is playing 3D chess. But any perspective of this trade based upon the actual trade says it was a terrible trade for Portland. So the subsequent moves, if indeed there are any, need to be pretty damn spectacular to offset the shit-sandwich that this trade is
We also lost roster flexibility trading 2 for 3. Looks like Watford isn't getting a contract. And any subsequent CJ for Multiple Player deals will require us waiving some guys first.
unless Cronin trades CJ he's got a strange view of roster balance because having 80M/year tied up in three small guards sure looks piss-poor balance
It’s not “contortions” of logic. It’s logic. This wasn’t a trade made to get better. My mom wouldn’t make this trade as a stand-alone. Everyone knows this. It’s about whatever is next, whether that is next week or next summer. It is about money. It’s about Roco having not near the league wide interest as everyone seems to think and Powells huge contract. Logic says Cronin isn’t a compete dolt who wants to end his career. Go ahead and judge it on today, whatever. It’s not contorting anything. Everyone knows this one transaction sucks on its own. Y’all are geniuses.
exactly... it was a shit trade and the only hope to salvage the situation is good trades to follow. But what if no good trades follow?
I haven't seen any kinda weird "squint just right" way of looking at this that isn't an unmitigated disaster. Unless there is some bizarre cap thing that lets us take on a bigger contract (Simmons with trade kicker?!) I just don't get this at all. It looks HORRIBLE at this point. Bledsoe's contract is NOT expiring it lasts until 2023. https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html
Does anyone know in wild speculative theory does this somehow make the Simmons trade or other large contract trade more likely due to contract stuff I can't comprehend? The part that baffles me is Bledsoe. Why in god's name would we want him on that contract? Can we trade one or all of these guys onward during the trade deadline, meaning the 3 we just got?
