That's not true. Neither of your statements are true. Pretty hilarious we gave up two first round picks for a non starting player two years ago. If that is your valuation of those two then all three players we got shouldn't even be on rosters. Or should be end of the bench guys.
keeps our minds off the games where we get smacked by 30 while playing tony snell 20 minutes. i don't think there is any level of spin people can come up with for that one.
I'm ok with people rationalizing/whatever. What I'm confused about is... how can you say Neil was a bad GM, but like this trade?
No, I put him in the same category as Ant. Most young non-lottery rookies these days are not ready until year 3.
I think the point of his addition in the trade was for Cronin to be able to come back to Jody and say, "hey look I couldn't get a first rounder, but I got one that was drafted a few months ago at 21." For all intents and purposes, we are trying to build around Dame in a quick rebuild. And also for all intents and purposes, Johnson was the only potential non-scrub piece of that trade. Is it not rational to criticize the lack of vision for getting a 19 yr old prospect who is three years away now? This ain't Banchero or Smith who will contribute from Day 1. Johnson's ceiling might be Powell, and he'll get there maybe in 2025. Is it also not rational to think we woulda been better served not moving Powell at all now if these were the offers we were getting? Unless Bledsoe gets moved by Thursday, this will have been completely pointless.
Did Nance take Roco starting position that is true statement and Powell wouldn't be starting on like of golden state or phoenix suns team so that's pretty much true too.
You quote two teams that have all world players at the SG Spot. Powell can be a starting SG on a contender. Covington can be a starter on a legit team too. How many of the players we got would even be in the rotation of a contender? Zero.
Powell is on a very team-friendly 5 year deal. Unlike RoCo or Nurkic, there was no potential urgency whatsoever to trade him right now.
To be fair, almost everything posted on this form is post facto. We make posts based on our reactions to what has occurred. Whining about how those of us dissatisfied with our return should just get over it is silly. It would be better to just ignore reaction threads if you don't like the message. Bottom line, a roster that is not competing for a Championship is nothing more than a collection of assets. The goal is to maximize the assets available. We neglected to do so, which is why so many are disappointed with this deal.
I'm certain he did. And my answer would be, "You signed an extension with us, and we will trade you where we wish." Frankly, I would have been fine sitting him for the season and waiting to see what his trade value might be at a later date.
Then his leverage in that case would be about zero. We can kindly explain to him that he signed a 5 year deal and we will honor his request when/if a favorable offer becomes available. And it doesn't hurt us any if he wants to sit in the mean time because we aren't trying to win this season anyways.
Then we should have kept Trent. Or traded him for future assets if all we planned on doing was dump Norm for hot trash.
Okay, first of all you do NOT know that, you are guessing like we all are. A lot depends on what ownership wanted/directed Cronin to do IMO, maybe we will find out and maybe not. And let me add I don't think the trade is as bad as most do. Roco was playing pretty friggin bad this year and he was worth little if anything IMO. So, if I count Roco as "meh filler" (which I do, F U Olshey) we then traded Powell for last year's 21st pick, Winslow on a cheapish/fair contract and a second rd pick for basically an expiring Bledsoe (3.9 mil next yr). So what was Powell's realistic worth? A lotto protected first and a decent player? I really don't think the trade was that bad unless one has some Roco fantasy of a 1st rd pick, obviously a lot depends on how Keon turns out and if Winslow can stay healthy and get back to where he was a few yrs ago before his injuries.
How is it nit-picking? It just is what is so far. No one can predict the future, so anything looking forward is conjecture. The short reality is, so far, the Clips 2nd round pick was by far out-playing their 1st round pick which we just acquired.
Again who cares that Brandon Boston has outplayed him so far? Good for him that yet another 2nd round pick has excelled. There is not much difference these days between non-lottery rookies and 2nd rounders. We see it all the time. Brandon Boston getting out to a quick start has no bearing on how Keon will turn out. It means nothing at this point As you said, no one can predict the future.
Bingo. Any 1st round pick in the next draft is worth more than a player that has already shown he can't contribute. People will go on and on about where this Keon kid was drafted, his age, the fact his granny had 3 nipples and a flipper for a left hind foot, etc. Who cares? When apologists talk about everything except a player's on-court performance, that should tell you all you need to know.
With multiple injuries on his team. Should tell you how valued he currently is. Again. He is young, and he could someday become something. But across the league now, a future 1st would have more value.
You do realize the contradiction in your statement? If this was a financially driven deal it wasn't "what we could get" - it is exactly what the front office wanted. Cronin didn't blow a tire and lose control of his car, he intentionally drove onto the sidewalk and ran down the fans.
