Anyone could get a team to say yes when you're taking back shit value on your players. Doing nothing would have been better than what he has done.
The CJ trade has potential to possibly be good... a FRP, Hart could be a nice rotational player, CJ contract might look even worse a year from now. I can see why some people are for or against it. The Clippers trade is indefensible. The big advantage a few posters brought up at the time of luxury tax savings now are completely irrelevant too. 2 starters on good contracts for 3 scrubs.
Everyone has bagged and shit on CJ in here for years. We get cap relief and a likely lotto pick for him without having to take back any bad money, and peoplebare pissed at that return? That's the problem often with coming up with the fake trades in here. If you actually believe cj was gonna return ben Simmons, of course you'll be disappointed in the return.
Chad Buchanan got better value for a completely washed Gerald Wallace. CJ is not a bad player. Not by any means.
this isn't 2012. first round picks, especially those projected to be in the lottery, aren't easy to come by. I can somewhat see the merits of the CJ trade. The first one, I'm completely baffled by. We coulda just done this one today in essence and gotten the same tax benefits.
It isn't 2013, 2014, or 2015 either. What's your point? The team doesn't feel like it has any real direction right now.
I REALLY don’t get the hate? THIS team wasn’t winning shit, and really had no hope for the future. Cronin took that and dumped salary to give the team a chance to add some pieces for next years team that might fit together a bit better. He also may have got back a lottery pick to help replace the shit ton of picks OLSHEY gave away for band-aids. Portland might have two lottery picks next year and 50+ million in cap space. I’ll take that over the shot show it was looking like before the trades ALSO, probably one more trade and a potential add on to this one
So firstly, you throw out some random point about it not being the same, but offer nothing else until I responded. Second, it doesn't have to be a 1:1 exact same trade. I'm saying that we moved a player for a trade that made sense for the team and was a absolute win. None of the trades that Cronin has made feel like absolute wins.
Agreed. Hart is younger, taller, better advanced stats and a lot cheaper. Then we get that FRP, possibly lottery and a tall two way guard who is still young. I'm beginning to think we killed this trade!
They were complete losses given what we traded to get assets like Roco/Powell/Nance, and that's the sign of a novice at the helm. It's unfortunately who we have running the show right now. But if you came to me and said we'd get 20 million in savings, Hart and a possible lottery pick for CJ at the beginning of the year, I take that and run.
And it's possible th first trade was as good as he could get also; if Cleveland preferred LeVert, then that better deal wasn't available.
Well then just don't do that first trade. Either sign and trade Roco in the summer or let him walk. Norm has more value than any MLE level signing the Blazers could get in the summer. I get the rationale for the CJ trade, yes I might've hoped for more but the potential advantages make sense. The Clippers trade made no sense a few days ago and makes even less sense now.
Best post I've seen in here all week. RoCo, Powell and CJ finally gone... To me, the return for 2022 is irrelevant, long term addition by subtraction.
Is it now a possibility Chicago never gets the 1st round pick from us? How many years is it protected? Is it straight lottery protection every year? Missing the playoffs for the short term future is certainly on the table.
