The 2022 Trade Idea Thread, now with more urgency!

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  1. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Grant for Nurk? Fuck that.
     
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    If the plan is not to bring Nurk back anyhow, than I'd do that. Not a huge Grant fan, but that is a solid return for a player if they are not coming back anyhow.
     
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    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

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    if detroit wants nurk and if portland dont want to re-sign him, then of course hes gonna get traded for grant, its just common sense

    but, if detroit wants nurk and portland dont want to trade him, then its clear they want to re-sign nurk

    its probably true, given its detroit pistons beat writer saying it
     
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    And if Nurk does come back is it really gonna be on a deal that provides much team friendly value to the Blazers? He will want a raise, he has major injury history, at times motivational problems, and has been played off the floor in the playoffs when teams go small.

    I love what Nurk brings when he's healthy and beasting. But I have a lot of doubt we will get that from Nurk in the future, and on a contract that makes sense.

    I'd rather keep Nurk than get second round picks or such. But a FRP, or a player like Grant even with all his question marks might be worth it.
     
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    PCmor7 Generational Poster

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    I think if the Blazers are trading for Grant it's in an effort to flip him for something they see as better. Simmons, perhaps, when Morey finds out he's not going to get what he wants and has to settle.

    I have no evidence of this. Just the vibe I'm feeling.
     
  6. TBpup

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    Here would be the fun part. We trade for Grant, make some other moves that make us better, and Nurk decides he wants to come back to play with Dame on a much better team for the MLE.
     
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  7. illmatic99

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    Every move we have made indicates bringing back Nurk is a primary goal.

    Nurk was super underpaid last time. And he's a Klutch guy now. I bet he goes for every penny he can get.... as he should.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    If we use the TPE for Grant, keep in mind our tax implications of adding salary.

    Currently we have 18.9 mil of space. If we were to take on Grant without sending back anything, we'd be right back in the tax.

    If we simply shed NAW along with whatever other asset in addition to the TPE, we'd be OK.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Lol is Detroit stupid? I would do Nurk for Grant in a heartbeat.
     
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    troy weaver is solid gm at best, maybe trader joe can get grant without overpaying
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    NAW and the pelicans first is on the table. Pretty sure. Bleh.
     
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    im not sure jerami grant is who you think he is
     
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    id rather have that pick than grant. Has this been reported anywhere or simply speculation?
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Speculation, but given the hard on Cronin has for Grant, and the CJ deal, it’s the only one that makes sense. Detroit needs at least one first round pick, and we can’t trade any except for this one.
     
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    that would be a pass for me. Essentially turning Powell/CJ/Roco for Grant is a disastrous series of moves (even given the increased cap flexibility).

    the pick at least provides hope of potentially landing a legit star.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Same, but look at this team. It’s stripped to the bones. I know Dame is “ok” with the process, but coming back next year with basically 4 NBA quality players…..would Dame be okay with that? Long term value of the pick is definitely higher, but we’re in a weird timeline.
     
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    If Cronin trades the Pels pick for Jerami Grant I’m personally gonna show up to the post deadline presser and throw poop at him
     
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    Dame
    Simons
    Hart
    Nas
    Nurk
    FRP
    FRP
    Full MLE

    not sure how you come up with “4 nba quality players”
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I did not include Nurk because who knows what his status is. The picks I’m not expecting to be good contributors. Same with any free agent signing. Literally look at who we’ve been able to sign the last decade.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Can you imagine the traps he'd face now?
     

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