Blazer Cap-Space This Summer

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been a lot of chatter about Blazer cap-space next summer, so I thought I'd do a 'as-it-stands-now' look at it:

Damian Lillard $42,492,492
Eric Bledsoe $3,900.000
Justise Winslow $4,097,561
Keon Johnson $2,681,040
Nassir Little $4,171,548
Greg Brown III $1,563,518
Andrew Nicholson $2,844,429

Jusuf Nurkić $18,000,000(cap-hold)
Anfernee Simons $11,816,454 (cap-hold)
Ben McLemore $1,766,970
CJ Elleby $1,966,970 (qualifying offer)

Josh Hart $12,960,000 (non-guaranteed)
Nickeil Alexander-Walker $5,009,633(team option)
Didi Louzada $1,876,222

Blazer 2022 first round pick $4,000,000 (estimate)

$118,946,837

Wait a minute says I....where is this 60M number coming from?

if Portland renounced Hart, McLemore, Elleby, and NAW they'd clear 20M of that guarantee away. that would put them at 99M. But they accrue two roster charges putting them at about 101M. With a 121M salary cap that would leave them 20M in cap-space. That's a long way from 60M

maybe the Blazers can re-sign Nurkic for 12-15M first year salary. That would give then 23-26M in cap-space. Trading him now for an expiring contract would bump the Blazers up to around 40M in space
 
I didn't know where else to put this but this is what I have. After the Ingles trade that cleared a little more than 5M more of salary going into free agency. So as I see it, if we renounce the cap holds on everyone and don't pick up Hart's and Bledsoe's options, right now we have just under 62M in salary and 5 players under contract. This includes what would be 7.6M in dead cap money.

Basically according to Spotrac, as of right now we would have just over 41.9M in cap space but that number already has minimum cap holds deducted from it for the remaining 9 roster spots.

I'd like to keep a running total of this so when all of the smoke clears tomorrow afternoon we have a good idea of just how much space Cronin has created because obviously despite our history of not being able to get free agents, Joe is putting all of his eggs in the basket of cap space. It is important to note that the cap space would not have to be used only by signing free agents which hasn't proved to be fruitful but also in unbalanced trades. We also have the 20M TPE that we could use after exhausting the cap space.
 
I think an unbalanced trade plus the picks we have might be enticing on Draft night.
 
These are our books on July 1.

Dame 43
Nurk (caphold) 18
Hart (partial guarantee) 13
Ant (caphold) 12
Nas 4
Winslow 4
Bledsoe (non-guarantee) 3.9
Nicholson (ughhh) 2.9
Johnson 2.7
Louzada 1.9
Brown 1.9
Elleby (caphold) 2
Hughes (caphold) 2
Watford (caphold) 1.5

That's about 113 mil, with a possible cap of 120 mil. Essentially meaningless capspace.

But if we renounce everyone including our exceptions, we'd have:

Dame 43
Winslow 4
Bledsoe (non-guarantee) 3.9
Nicholson (ughhh) 2.9
Johnson 2.7
Louzada 1.9
Brown 1.9

About 60 mil in capspace.

Just bringing back Nurk, Hart and Ant (which is probably most reasonable):
Dame 43
Nurk (caphold) 18
Hart 12.9
Ant (caphold) 12
Nas 4
Winslow 4
Bledsoe (non-guarantee) 3.9
Nicholson (ughhh) 2.9
Johnson 2.7
Louzada 1.9
Brown 1.9

That is about 107 mil, with about 15 mil of capspace.
 
Thanks you gurus. I always get so lost on this aspect. Thanks for lining these out, guys.
 
It seems like if they want to have meaningful cap space, we need to move Nurk asap.
 
Nurk and Ant will be signed with bird's right so we can go above the cap to sign them. They will be the last players to sign after we used up all our cap space first. So we have about 45M.
 
Jelloman said:
Nurk and Ant will be signed with bird's right so we can go above the cap to sign them. They will be the last players to sign after we used up all our cap space first. So we have about 45M.
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that's only possible if we retain their 30 mil in capholds. How do you get to 45 with that? Even if we renounce Hart and the others, the max you're getting is like 30.
 
illmatic99 said:
These are our books on July 1.

Dame 43
Nurk (caphold) 18
Hart (partial guarantee) 13
Ant (caphold) 12
Nas 4
Winslow 4
Bledsoe (non-guarantee) 3.9
Nicholson (ughhh) 2.9
Johnson 2.7
Louzada 1.9
Brown 1.9
Elleby (caphold) 2
Hughes (caphold) 2
Watford (caphold) 1.5

That's about 113 mil, with a possible cap of 120 mil. Essentially meaningless capspace.

But if we renounce everyone including our exceptions, we'd have:

Dame 43
Winslow 4
Bledsoe (non-guarantee) 3.9
Nicholson (ughhh) 2.9
Johnson 2.7
Louzada 1.9
Brown 1.9

About 60 mil in capspace.

Just bringing back Nurk, Hart and Ant (which is probably most reasonable):
Dame 43
Nurk (caphold) 18
Hart 12.9
Ant (caphold) 12
Nas 4
Winslow 4
Bledsoe (non-guarantee) 3.9
Nicholson (ughhh) 2.9
Johnson 2.7
Louzada 1.9
Brown 1.9

That is about 107 mil, with about 15 mil of capspace.
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Wheres Dennis Smith Jr.?
 
There’s no way this is about cap space this is setting up for bigger trade.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Thanks you gurus. I always get so lost on this aspect. Thanks for lining these out, guys.
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hey, only one guru in here. I might be super old and dealing with some memory issues, but I can still drive and shoot a deer at 300 yards. I also can still feed the kitty whenever!
 
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Great stuff on showing the books gents. Remember, if we do want to keep Nurk, we sign him right away. He will not be paid his cap hold of $18 mil, so give him a modest raise to $14 mil and have $4 mil of the cap hold removed to use in free agency. The opposite would apply to Ant. He will be paid more than his cap hold, so you sign free agents using the cap space up to Ant's cap hold, then sign him. You can go over the cap resigning your free agents with Bird rights. And local sports talk here in Phoenix are concerned Portland wants to target Ayton.
 
BIG Q said:
Great stuff on showing the books gents. Remember, if we do want to keep Nurk, we sign him right away. He will not be paid his cap hold of $18 mil, so give him a modest raise to $14 mil and have $4 mil of the cap hold removed to use in free agency. The opposite would apply to Ant. He will be paid more than his cap hold, so you sign free agents using the cap space up to Ant's cap hold, then sign him. You can go over the cap resigning your free agents with Bird rights. And local sports talk here in Phoenix are concerned Portland wants to target Ayton.
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would be extremely happy with Ayton
 
Hoopguru said:
hey, only one guru in here. I might be super old and dealing with some memory issues, but I can still drive and shoot a deer at 300 yards. I also can still feed the kitty whenever!
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you can drive and shoot a deer 300 yards away?

may i ask what forests are you driving in that provide 300 yards of clearance to not hit trees while shooting at deer?
 
I'm not positive (not as much up on cap stuff as I used to be, not like guru) but I think there's a way around this.
Trade Nurk now for something expiring (or a cheaper long-term piece) and bring him back on the NTMLE (4/46 or so) after we fill up on FAs (now, who's available is a different question, but I see what Cronin's trying to do). Now the team's at 33M or so in space even with Ant's hold, then after you sign the FAs you sign Nurk.
Also, it'd be really cool to do a challenge swap and get Halliburton for Ant. But with Brogdon there I just don't know. I'm a bit irrational over Halliburton.
 
Winslow and Bledsoe are the two worthless contracts taking up dead space if we can clear those either now or in the summer that would help. So ridiculous these were both acquired giving up starters.

It doesn't makes sense to keep Nurk at $18 million. Either we trade him now, sign him to a lesser deal, or let him walk in the summer.

So if we could get rid of all of three of these we are at $80.5 million, closer to $35 million in cap space, maybe even enough for a max type free agent offer.

I just don't see how we build a contending starting 5 around Lillard with the assets this team has. Joe would need to trade for a RoLo type starter with second rounders, hit on a lottery pick, sign a Wes Matthews level amazing value free agent, and have Nas/Ant continue to improve. Sure its technically possible, but it seems beyond unlikely all of these breaks go our way.

Probably was way more likely to just keep the old roster we had, trade CJ, and have one lucky break mentioned above to contend. Now we need 4 lucky breaks to contend.

I'm expecting a long term rebuild with lots of losing seasons ahead. Only question is do we trade Dame or let him ride out his years here as Kobe did in LA.
 
BrianFromWA said:
I'm not positive (not as much up on cap stuff as I used to be, not like guru) but I think there's a way around this.
Trade Nurk now for something expiring (or a cheaper long-term piece) and bring him back on the NTMLE (4/46 or so) after we fill up on FAs (now, who's available is a different question, but I see what Cronin's trying to do). Now the team's at 33M or so in space even with Ant's hold, then after you sign the FAs you sign Nurk.
Also, it'd be really cool to do a challenge swap and get Halliburton for Ant. But with Brogdon there I just don't know. I'm a bit irrational over Halliburton.
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Can't do NTMLE if you use cap space. There is the room exception but its I think less than the tax MLE.

Although lets say we traded Nurk for Grant now... we'd still have the $20 million trade exception in the summer, and could sign Nurk for the NTMLE. Though that would hard cap us.
 
For only $18 mill we could probably sign Crabbe again.

Or Evan Turner!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
For only $18 mill we could probably sign Crabbe again.

Or Evan Turner!
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TBpup said:
Can't imagine he uses it for actual Free Agents. Much more for unbalanced trades.
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What starters are acquired primarily from an unbalanced trade?

Its worth about the same as the golden ticket RLEC.

Maybe if we take on some huge contracts we can get first round picks as OKC has done. In that case we are certainly doing a long term rebuild though, not winning with Dame.
 
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