Spoke too soon?

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    The result is Ant learns to not be loyal to Portland since we turn our back on that the first moment our loyal star is down. Terrible precedent.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Scouting will catch up to us. So fun to watch though
     
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    About the time scouting catches up with us we'll have a schedule of Pacers, Pistons, Spurs, Rockets, Rockets, Thunder, Pelicans, Spurs, Spurs, Thunder and Pelicans. I'm not saying we'll win all of those games but even with scouting reports those teams are inferior to us. The tank is over. I actually think we have a good chance of getting into the 7/8 game, winning it and getting this young team some playoff experience and also figuring out just how well the pieces fit together against top flight teams. Again while we do lose one lottery pick we gain the ability to use all of our future picks in a trade.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Potential franchise altering player in the draft like Dame >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first round playoff loss……..again
     
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    The fact is that there aren't any sure fire prospects in this draft as far as sure fire all stars and there definitely aren't any sure fire all nba or mvps. Obviously Dame wasn't one of those either and one of the guys in this draft is probably going to be a big time superstar but due to there being no consensus there is a great possibility that if our front office identifies who they think that player is, they will be able to trade the Pelicans pick and a future first to move up and get that player.

    The draft lottery will still be very interesting for us and then I expect us to be very active during the draft as well.
     
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    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    Some peeps around here need to be eating some serious cronin crow!!!
     
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    i have a feeling chemistry at least on the court was one of our biggest issues. We had a couple of ball stoppers that were preventing us from playing unselfish basketball. Nothing against Norm but he wasn’t the defender we thought he was and he knew one way to play shoot almost every time he got it. We all know CJ rarely passed where this team seems to enjoy making the extra pass.

    I always like the Pop saying “there’s a good shot and a better shot, I want the better shot” think I heard Billups say similar thing in his post game press conference.
     
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    I’m guessing plan is to use one or both for a trade. We have good youth now no need to add more
     
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    What is the chance the Blazers get a franchise altering player at the top of the draft? 2%? Pretty freaking low. Look how many weren't drafted in the high lottery: Kawhi, Giannis, Butler, Jokic, Siakim, Mitchell, etc. It's about 50/50 if a star is high in the lottery or deep in the draft.

    Not sure why you want to root for losses. The GM did all he could to tank. But this coach, Ant, and patchwork roster is too good for that. Enjoy the wins instead of dreaming of losses.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    3 of the people you mentioned were franchise altering players.

    What it does is allow you the best opportunity at drafting those players. Example

    Oden over Durant. No chance at Durant without that pick

    pre lottery, but Bowie over Jordan. Same thing

    It’s not the fault of the strategy that you pick the wrong guy.
     
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    Yeah, and what player is that? Only one looks like a slam dunk to be a starter with star potential. Everyone else is a roll of the dice.
     
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    That take is mediocre lol. Giannis is better than Dame and was around near where the Pelicans pick will be. Kawhi, Giannis, and Jokic are all franchise-altering players no doubt about it. Adding someone at Butler, Siakam, or Mitchell's level would change our trajectory with Dame and Ant there. We just need one more star-level guy and in this draft, he's as likely to be found at #12 or lower than #2-11. Only Jabari Smith looks like a surefire starter for a good team with a shot at being a star, the rest are huge question marks.
     
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    Not quite yet.
     
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    if you assume pick is 10 or lower:

    17 Jrue Holiday
    10 Paul George
    11 Klay Thompson
    15 Kawhi Leonard
    19 Tobias Harris
    30 Jimmy Butler
    35 Draymond Green
    39 Khris Middleton
    12 Steven Adams
    15 Giannis Antetokounmpo
    27 Rudy Gobert
    13 Zach LaVine
    33 Joe Harris
    38 Spencer Dinwiddie
    39 Jerami Grant
    41 Nikola Jokić
    46 Jordan Clarkson
    11 Myles Turner
    13 Devin Booker
    15 Kelly Oubre Jr.
    22 Bobby Portis
    40 Josh Richardson
    11 Domantas Sabonis
    20 Caris LeVert
    27 Pascal Siakam
    29 Dejounte Murray
    36 Malcolm Brogdon
    13 Donovan Mitchell
    14 Bam Adebayo
    19 John Collins
    22 Jarrett Allen
    23 OG Anunoby
    45 Dillon Brooks
    10 Mikal Bridges
    11 Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
    12 Miles Bridges
    14 Michael Porter Jr.
    33 Jalen Brunson
    37 Gary Trent Jr.
    11 Cameron Johnson
    12 P.J. Washington
    13 Tyler Herro
    28 Jordan Poole
    29 Keldon Johnson
    12 Tyrese Haliburton
    15 Cole Anthony
    19 Saddiq Bey
    30 Desmond Bane

    they are few and far between but there are gems outside of the top-10 in every draft. Long odds but there's no chance if it's not taken
     
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    Olshey mentality
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Also known as hubris and a "losers mentality."
     
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    Orion Bailey Forum Troll

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    When?
     
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    The whole point was to dump players for cap space.
    As of now, he's done jack and shit with it.
    When he's done something with it, that's the time.
     
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    fair enough. Get hungry. :)
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    The dude tried to make the team worse this year and they're accidently good because Chaunceys gotten them functioning like a team. What Cronin crow?
     
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