Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    Over the last year or so Jonnyboy has criticized Ukraine and blamed them for this mess to some degree, supported Trump, shown some anti mask and anti vax sentiment, pro gun, the list goes on. You never know how people were raised or what’s going on with them, but his responses in this thread are consistent with his track record at least
     
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  2. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Sweet insults. They really shed a light on your foreign policy expertise.
     
  3. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    And you have repeatedly frothed at the mouth at the prospect of people you disagree with dying horrible deaths. It’s become a theme with you at this point.

    Yeah, you never know how people are raised.
     
  4. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Can we all collectively ignore the troll, please?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    I'm asking if whatever evidence you have is different than what happens in every country.
    Like, how is Zelenzky more corrupt than other leaders?
     
  7. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think you need anyone’s help to fight the urge to respond to me. Be strong.
     
  8. jonnyboy

    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    I didn’t compare him to anyone else. Corrupt is corrupt.
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    What a world.

    We have Hitler and Mussolini cosplaying as Putin and Trump while their degenerate cultists cheer them on.
     
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    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Boogeymen everywhere! Lock the doors, put your mask on!
     
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    If he's no more corrupt than his peers, yet is doing well on things his peers are not it seems you might be lacking a valid point...

    At this point I'd say he's vastly superior to our last president. Even if that is a low bar...
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    ANTIFA...
     
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  14. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    What? Let Putin take Ukraine?
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    They are fighting for their country just like we would fight for ours if we were invaded. Yes, to them their freedom is worth dying for.
     
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    His country is at war. The capital is feared to fall. He’s trying to convince his people to battle in the streets. He’s refusing diplomacy against an evil superpower out of sheer stubbornness. He’s putting his people’s lives at risk. What’s he doing good on? How low is your bar? I realize much of this is the fault of the US and NATO for encouraging them and then basically saying “good luck” when the shit actually went down, but good god, how naive can a leader be? We’ve seen this play in this region before.
     
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    Well... His people don't seem to want him to cave... Every Ukrainian I've seen agrees with the course of action he's taken and do not want to ve governed by anybody else. Certainly not Putin.

    They'd rather die. And he's going down with them if they go down (as they likely will).

    I don't think Trump or Biden would be as honorable. They'd already be in exile out of the reach of Russia, IMO.

    In fact, they would have likely caved long before, sold out their country, and gotten rich in the process.
     
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  18. jonnyboy

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    There were precursors to all of this. The blood is on Russia’s hands absolutely, but they repeatedly said they would do it. Over and over again. Why tempt the psycho and risk your people’s lives? There were diplomatic ways around this.
     
  19. Chris Craig

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    We were outnumbered against England many years ago, yet we fought on for freedom, ready to die for it.
     
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    So if China and Russia teamed up and invaded us your stance would be to give up and negotiate?
     

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