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  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    It's a false narrative. We only had to shed less than 3M to get under the tax. That isn't enough for teams to be able to hold us hostage to the point of giving away players that are all very capable starters in this league for next to nothing. If you don't think, even within the context of us needing to get under the tax, that the Norm/RoCo deal wasn't terrible, I don't think you know what you're talking about. As for the CJ/Larry deal, we were already under the tax... so how could the Pelicans have us over a barrel to the point that we would make such an uneven trade?

    It doesn't matter how you spin it, the trades were terrible if we get the Pelicans pick and if the Pelicans make the playoffs the trades will have been an unparalleled disaster. We're talking about three guys that could be the fifth or sixth best player on a contender and a guy that could be the second or third best player on a title team for one guy that could be a fifth or sixth man on a championship team (Hart), a guy that would have a hard time cracking the rotation on a contender (Winslow), a pick that is so protected it was a terrible gamble and a few very meh prospects.

    If we end up with the 7th-9th pick and that's it, I expect Joe to ship that pick and the Milwaukee 2025 FRP to the Pistons for Grant, re-sign Ant and Nurk, opt in on Hart, sign someone with whatever amount of the MLE that keeps us below the tax and call it a day. If Dame and Ant don't have the same issues as Dame and CJ then that will be a better team than we started this season with but there will also have been huge opportunities missed.
     
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    Id rather have Bey than Grant. Go after Bey with Simons or Naz and some.
     
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    Let's go kings!
     
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    So I agree that Dame didn't offer max contracts but Dame very well could have been talking to Olshey during the offseasons going "I like Hibbert, Kanter, Afflalo, Monroe, Parsons, Crabbe, Turner, RoCo as players to go after for this team". It's known that Olshey picked Dame's brain about players he liked around the league. So Olshey tried to go out and get those players for Dame. And since we're Portland we got to overpay for even average players to sign with us.

    Look I'm an Olshey hater too but I'm just trying to point out that generally GMs just don't go and sign players without at least picking the brain of the team's best player about who they think they'd play well with.
     
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    Yes the trades were disasters in terms of talent coming back. In terms of tanking for the season it's perfect. We're guaranteed to have our pick and potentially another pick. Nine times out of ten when you trade a player to a team they want to go to you're not going to get very good value. CJ had been with us for 9 years or whatever and Cronin sent him to a team that CJ wanted to go to. We got shit value for the trade but made CJ and his agent happy. Who knows maybe CJ's agent has a good free agent this upcoming offseason and that agent is able to push that player to sign with us. Although looking at CJ's agent and their players that's not the case for this upcoming offseason really.

    But look at CJ's agent, Jeff Schwartz, he's also Brandon Ingram's agent. Guess which team Ingram is on--you're right NOP. Guess what team CJ got traded to--you're right NOP. There's a lot of behind the scenes things that happen between GMs and agents that we just never see in the media.
     
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    It would only be perfect if we got more draft compensation. I'm not saying we should have got better players but for sure we should have got another pick from NOLA and we just should have traded Norm and RoCo elsewhere... or at the very least got the Clippers 2028 first rounder. Anyway, what's done is done. I'll move on.
     
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    Well I meant perfect in terms of us, personally, tanking for our pick. In terms of other teams picks it wasn't perfect at all haha.
     
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    If Dame is who so many say he is and tries to play puppet master with this franchise and it's roster (for the record I think that's pure bullshit) then it was Olshey's job to convince Dame that the moves that were best for the team were in fact beneficial to Dame... then Olshey needed to make those moves. The fact is that ownership and management make personnel decisions and it's their job to make the team better if that means that you have to trade your superstar, so be it but I don't think it ever would have come to that with Dame if we were improving as a team.
     
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    I don't know why you keep saying that. No where have I said that Dame was playing puppet master. As I've said repeatedly here Olshey would ask Dame which players he valued around the league and when they'd be free agents Olshey made sure to target those players. Which resulted in overpaying for those players. No where was I suggesting that Dame went into Olshey's office and said "I absolutely need an Evan Turner on my team--get him at any cost".
     
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    Don’t forget- we traded Drexler for Otis Thorpe.
     
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    Let's go King! Just a quarter to go.
     
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    kings are gonna king
     
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    Yikes the Kings are blowing it.
     
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    They still gonna lose. It’s the Kings. One of the biggest garbage franchise in US Sports
     
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    They did lose.
     
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    Sacramento couldn't get it done. But they are playing hard and should win a few more.
     
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    seriously, the Kings are an embarrassment to sports.
     
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    Sacs next game is at home against New York. Prefer Sac to win but a Knicks win would be a good consolation since they are tied with the Blazers in wins (25).
     
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    The Spurs game isn't as important since the Blazers can lose to them three more times this season.
     
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