OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    But you refuse to accept any answer. Simply asking questions isn't enough.

    It comes off as a facade.

    And I'm not trying to offend you at all.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    You have admitted to (in fact bragged about) supporting programs, policies and leaders which are racist and anti gay/trans.

    Then you refuse to entertain explanations as to why those things are harmful...
     
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    At age 8 I knew who Nazis were and what they did to the Jews. Can you really think gay and trans people are scarier for children to learn about than telling a little Jewish girl about Nazi Germany?
     
  4. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    They are ugly labels. They represent ugly things. Things you have aligned yourself with through politicians, laws, policies, etc that you support.

    You have left people to make their own conclusions.

    Clarify your stance. Don't be afraid to have the conversation.

    I offer to have a conversation here with you about this, free of judgement.
     
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  5. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    omg, Chris.

    So, having legitimate questions means being so-called obscure and automatically necessitates being labeled a racist and/or bigot? The links I post generally involved abuses. We've already discussed many of those ad nauseum. Show me otherwise.

    Look, when it comes to religion, the bible even identifies pre-marital hetero sex as a sin. It's called fornication. LGBTQ folks certainly aren't singled out in that regard. And, hey, I've been guilty of that. In terms of gay marriage, the bible doesn't speak of it, it describes marriage as a coenenat with God between a man and a woman. Therefore, I'm not in support of gay marriage. If you want to call me a name for that, it's your call.

    As a moderator, though, despite your personal beliefs on the matter(s), simply condoning someone calling me a racist and/or hater is laziness in my opinion. I'm not certain of you've liked any of those posts, but Sly certainly has. Irresponsible.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    You're skirting. I asked you if you believe these discussion should be between parents and their children and left out of (or not) school discussions/teaching.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Bull.
     
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    How can a religion be against people using the brain god gave them to decide what they are and who they love? That's heresy. That's telling god she/he/they (*) made a mistake giving people a brain.

    (*) have not had a conversation with god recently, not sure how they identify now.

    In other words, if you can not say Gay in school or discuss transgender people, you should not say Christian or God or Jesus either.

    Fucking hypocrites.
     
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  9. Chris Craig

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    I'm not calling you anything or condoning anyone calling you anything. I was merely offering reasoning why such labels might be coming your way.

    Having questions is a good thing. It's how we learn. Certain questions, or how certain questions are formed can be controversial. Asking questions in themselves should perhaps not automatically necessitate certain labels.

    All I was saying was because you rely on links to get your point of views across without context, it leaves people to make conclusions.

    I get that your religion limits you in terms of supporting LGBTQ folks. Premarital sex is wrong, as is gay marriage...per your religion, thus gay people are screwed (no pun intended) in that way of thinking. Again, not judging, just looking at it analytically.

    From what I have gathered through your posts here, and you can tell me if I'm wrong, is that you aren't against gay people per say, just the idea of being gay....because of your religion.

    Does your feelings then conflict with what you are mandated by via your religion? How do you reconcile that if so?
     
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    See what I mean?
     
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    You need to get over the liking of posts thing, in my opinion. People can like a post for any number of reasons so reading into that will lead you into conjecture.
     
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    Not only is that a rocket launcher blast to women's rights, it's a move to try and get Dems to move away.
     
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    What is the point of school if students can't learn anything their parents don't teach them? If they can't ever learn anything controversial?
    If the don't say gay bill was just about parental involvement, why did spokesperson for governor you admire say anyone who opposes it supports homosexuals recruiting children? Combine don't say gay law with don't talk about anything that makes white people uncomfortable law and you have Make America Ignorant Again. Which is probably the point.
     
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    ABM says he is not antigay, he just doesn't think we should have marriage equality because it's not in his bible. What is in his bible are polygamy, forcing rape victims to marry the rapist, murdering brides who aren't virgins. And of course slavery. Should I assume ABM likes all these?

    We have a little thing in this country called the First Amendment. Civil law, which includes marriage, is not supposed to be based on anyone's interpretation of their holy book.
    That was before the current radical right Supremacist Court decided they don't like the Constitution very much.
     
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    I would think that bill if passed would soon be thrown out by the court.
     
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    Parents often fall down on the job. Teachers are trained in these matters whereas some parents are ignorant about it.. The child deserves to be properly taught.
     
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    You would think even the person with the lowest IQ would realize this.
     
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    The Bible does not say anything about being homosexual as far as I know.
    Here's the best source on the subject that I could find:
    https://www.hrc.org/resources/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality
     
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