OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    The virgin Mary was only 12? That's fucked up.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Meaning, none of this has anything to do with K thru 3rd Grade.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It's really only in the last couple hundred years that we have decided that anything under 18 is considered yucky. That was prime marrying age back in colonial days!
     
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    The bill, which passed the Florida House in late February and the state Senate last week, imposes several vague restrictions on classroom instruction. The most notable part of the bill provides that “classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards.”

    The bill, however, does not define key terms like “age appropriate” or “developmentally appropriate.” It doesn’t even define the term “classroom instruction.”

    Suppose, for example, that Ms. Smith is a second grade teacher married to a woman. One evening, while Smith and her wife are shopping at the mall, she runs into one of her students and they say hello to each other. The next day, the student asks Ms. Smith who the woman she was shopping with is, and Smith responds, “Oh, that’s my wife.”

    If this conversation with the student occurs in a classroom, does it constitute “classroom instruction”?

    The insidiousness of Florida’s law is that teachers who won’t understand how to comply with the new law are likely to overcensor their speech in order to protect themselves from being accused of violating the law.

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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I'm sure they'll get it figured out. Sometimes, there's the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. In virtually every case situation of our existence, there are exceptions.
     
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    And the law also allows for prosecution, in special courts, of any teacher any grade if any parent complains. I am also sure they will "figure it out".
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Follow the money. Who's paying the bills?
     
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    Huh?
     
  10. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Never mind.
     
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    You mean who is giving money to the politicians that are supporting this bill?

    Or who is going to pay for the special courts?
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    omg.

    Homeowners (parents) pay for our public schools.
     
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    School districts in 2019-20 received 39.15 percent of their financial support from state sources, 50.11 percent from local sources (including the Required Local Effort portion of the FEFP) and 10.73 percent from federal sources.

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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Well cool. One way or another they're supported via taxpayers dollars. Thanks for playing.
     
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    So if money from taxpayers funds a law there is nothing wrong with the law? Really?
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    What I'm saying is, tax payers (i.e. parents) should have at least SOME say in what's going on in our schools. Other than that, laws are enacted via voted-in officials. Really, it's the American way.
     
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    And they don't now? Or they didn't before this law?
     
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    They should. Hence the law. K-3rd discussions of this nature should remain in the home. If scenarios (what you had posted) outside that realm creep in, so be it. If I were the 2nd grade teacher, I'd schedule a parent/teacher conference and go from there.
     
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    I think it's a pretty safe bet that that is something you won't ever be.

    Or should be.
     
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    I would be an amazing 2nd grade teacher. I'd put on Netflix and take a nap.
     
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