Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    “I heard my neighbor was gonna buy a gun so I broke into his house and shot him. He made me do it. Why else would he buy a gun”
     
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    Putin has 90% disapproval rating in US. A month ago, majority of Republicans preferred him to Biden. Do they still?
     
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  3. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    This is pretty much the argument for pro-russian/alt-right people.
     
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    This is exactly the narrative that our media puts out.

    I would say that several of our American presidents would fall under that very same title as well. G.W. Bush and Obama both come to mind here. We (America) care about Ukraine, yet turn a blind eye to wars in countries that we don't like. Hell, America directly supports wars in countries that we don't like. Ukraine shows America's hypocrisy, big time.

    We are hypocrites to the fullest extent with the "hills that we are willing to die on". Putin is a madman, yet American presidents are just trying to "spread democracy" with their wars and killing. That is not sane logic in my opinion. If we call Putin a madman when he attacks another country, we must be consistent and call out our leaders when our own country/presidents do the same.
     
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  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Which one of those wars were similar to Ukraine? I wasn't aware we were trying to annex any of those countries. Also, I was not aware that we were intentionally targeting civilians. Got a link?
     
  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Oh man, you got me.... so which of the countries that NATO invaded shocked you the most? There are so many, right?
     
  7. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    You clearly don't see the point. Nor have you proved anything. So your opinion is just that, your opinion...

    Edit: You give no proof yourself, yet want proof from me. Hyprocrisy...
     
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  8. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    Bush lied and people died....but as little respect as I have for the fool I would never compare him to Putin. In his incredible arrogance he thought he could change an Islamic nation into a western style constitutional republic. It was a fools errand, but not inherently malevolent. Russia's intentions toward Ukraine have always been malevolent. (see Holodomor for some historic context)
     
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  9. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Ok. So we have some Putin apologists in the forum. Good to know.
     
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    LOL

    Joining an organization that merely exists to say that if one of its member states is attacked, all the others will protect it, is not in any way, shape, or form aggressive. It is 100% defensive. Russia and China can make whatever pact they want. There is no hypocrisy. Where are you located?
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    Disagree to a point. We haven't done anything like what Putin has done to Ukraine, at least not in the last 40 years or so.

    However, our presidents have committed war crimes. I'll give you that. Just not of similar severity as Putin.
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    We don't attack our neighbors in an effort at empire building.

    Putin has no right, and nobody should be sympathetic toward him.
     
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  13. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    There is absolutely no reason to go there at all. This is why most conversations online end in nothing but a shit show...

    There is really no call for being an a-hole. I did nothing to you at all. So please crawl back under your rock.
     
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    For that matter, it's the excuse of abusers. You make me do this.
     
  15. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Do you go back and read what you post? Whenever anyone challenges your cut and paste approach to “debate”, you get angry and unnecessarily rude. But because you are “autistic” it’s somehow “okay” and the rest of us just have to suck it up and understand. Fuck that. If you want to be rude and challenging, then accept that that is how you will be treated. Quit using autism as an excuse. Your black and white take on life is way past its shelf life. If you can’t see the grays that make up the bulk of life, and adjust accordingly, that’s on you. But quit treating the forum members like shit because of your need to be “right”….or “smarter” than everyone else. Your opinions matter about as much as the rest of ours do, which means they don’t amount to shit in the larger scheme of things. So there is no reason for you to be so consistently rude and challenging. Maybe you’re the one who should crawl back under a rock. As you yourself said, “There is really no call for being an a-hole.”
     
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    This is true.
     
  17. Fairly-Hard

    Fairly-Hard Former Member Gone New!

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    Hell. I'd support joining it if Russia and China simply wanted a group of countries that wanted to work together to stop war altogether but that is a different "Boogeyman" scenario. Globalist New World Order is bad! Very very bad!
     
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  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Well that’s just a fools errand because he will never be smarter than me :devilwink:
     
  19. Road Ratt

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    Americans Reject Ukraine No Fly Zone When Told Truth.

     
  20. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Quite an interesting response, given that I never quoted you or referred to you at all. You claim that you did nothing to me at all, while hurling insults my direction. And, I never even mentioned you, quoted you, or said a single word in your direction. Interesting debate method.
     
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