OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If I could get a guide or maybe straight forward list of the topics that I'm allowed to have an opinion on, it would be much appreciated.
     
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  3. SlyPokerDog

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    You can have opinions on this.
     
  4. Natebishop3

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    I don't think you get to have an opinion on whether I get to have an opinion. You are also a straight cis man.
     
  5. Natebishop3

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    Circling back though, why isn't anyone concerned about trans men?

    How are they supposed to be able to compete in sports? They're men, so they can't compete in women's sports, but are any of them good enough to compete in men's sports? Have there been any cases of trans men competing in high school or college sports?
     
  6. Chris Craig

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    So what? @crandc is allowed to express her opinions too. She isn't directly attacking anyone. You can choose to take a post on a public forum personally, or you can agree to disagree and not give it power over you.

    I don't agree with everything @crandc has to say. I respect her opinion as a woman and as a member of the LGBTQ community. I get where she is coming from. I can agree with what I agree with and agree to disagree with the rest.

    I think alot of us guys on here take what she says to personally.
     
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    Stop with the sarcasm. Your aren't a victim. You are allowed to have opinions here.
     
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    Who said no one is concerned about trans men?

    We can look at both Trans women and men in sports. It's an interesting conversation to have.

    I have heard of cases where trans men lower their testosterone and such to certain levels so they can compete with women.
     
  9. Natebishop3

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    She is pretty much the only person on here who will flat out say that someone's opinion doesn't matter because of their gender and their sexual preference. :dunno:

    I would like to be judged on the basis of my opinions and not what gender I was born with or sexual preference. Maybe that's just me.
     
  10. Natebishop3

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    Who is talking to you? I am exaggerating to prove a point.
     
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    I think in this national "conversation" on transgenderism "straight cis men's" opinions and views on this are being very well represented. They are the ones proposing multiple laws in multiple states. Laws on where transgender people can pee, if they're allowed to be talked about in schools, even if the parents of transgender children are committing child abuse.

    I fully admit I know very little about transgenderism. Currently, my stepdaughter has a friend whose daughter is transgender. I've met her once.

    In my limited opinion, this just does not seem to be some great societal problem. All these laws and proposed laws over something that isn't a problem.

    Reading and listening to some concerns by people there is a narrative that parents are forcing their kids to change genders so these kids and teachers can recruit more kids to be trans then all these trans people can run into public restrooms and either flash their private parts or molest non trans people and after they get done with that they are being trans so they can cheat at sports.

    Now, I'm not saying anyone in this forum believes that. I'm just saying, IMO, there is a hysteria about trans people right now. A lot of assumptions and what-ifs or could-happens are being tossed out. They don't seem to be based on reality or need.
     
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    That's her opinion. She isn't directly saying that too anyone. It's generalized. Maybe you should take a deeper look at why you are feeling so threatened by it when you could just ignore it or agree to disagree with it.
     
  13. Natebishop3

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    Threatened? I don't feel threatened by anyone on here.

    I feel hurt and marginalized when someone tells me that my opinion doesn't matter or is invalid because of something that was out of my control. Do you think it's inappropriate to call out when someone is marginalizing someone's opinion because of their race, gender, sexual preference, etc?
     
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    I am merely responding to issue in a thread, which is my job as a moderator. I handle things face to face.

    All I am saying is you get your opinion. She gets hers. If you are so steadfast in your belief why let one poster throw you off? Why feel so threatened?

    What point are you proving? It just begets drama to play victim with such sarcasm.
     
  15. Natebishop3

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    Again with the threatened..... I don't feel threatened.

    Nobody is saying that the forum doesn't allow opinions. Your services here are not needed. I don't require your opinion on the rules of the forum. My posts have nothing to do with you.
     
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    Mack Beggs
    Wrestling, Life University (Georgia)
    Mack Beggs went undefeated and won two state girls wrestling titles in Texas, before he went on to college at Life University and became part of the men’s wrestling team.

    Peachy Tabilos
    Volleyball, City College of San Francisco (California)
    Peachy Tabilos was “timid” when she first joined the men’s volleyball team at the City College of San Francisco, according to her coach. But she reportedly found acceptance from teammates.

    Chloe Anderson
    Volleyball, Santa Ana College (California)
    Chloe Anderson played for the Santa Ana College women’s volleyball team before transferring to UC-Santa Cruz.

    Avery Cordingley
    Ice hockey, Macalaster College (Minnesota)
    Avery Cordingley had just stepped into a captain role when they came out to teammates as trans, balancing a leadership role on the team at the same time they were navigating the early days of their transition.

    Lucas Draper
    Swimming & Diving, Oberlin College (Ohio)
    Lucas Draper is a diver for the men’s swimming and diving team.

    Kolton Niemann
    Tennis and Soccer, Northern Vermont University - Lyndon
    Niemann came out as trans in high school and went on to play for both the men’s tennis and soccer teams in college. He was a finalist for the 2020 NCAA Division III LGBTQ OneTeam Recognition Awards.

    Dani Wheeler
    Swimming, Nebraska Wesleyan University
    Dani Wheeler competed on the women’s swimming team and is now a member of the men’s swimming team. At the recent Pioneer Classic Invite in Iowa, he competed in six events for the team.

    Ryan Lavigne
    Rowing, Lewis and Clark College (Oregon)
    Ryan Lavigne received an all-Northwest Conference honor by helping Lewis & Clark’s No. 1 varsity-eight boat finish second at the 2017 Northwest Conference Championships.

    Brent Darah
    Cross-country, Bowling Green (Ohio)
    An out trans man on the men’s cross-country team, Darah was embraced with his teams on the men’s team telling him, “You’re like a brother to us.”
     
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    If the United States decided to ban circumcision, would I be within my rights as a man to tell all women that they're not entitled to an opinion on the law because they're not men? Should only men be allowed to vote on said law? Or would I be a massive asshole because I'm telling other human beings that they're not entitled to an opinion on a societal topic that involves many people and not just the people who happen to have a piece of flesh dangling between their legs?
     
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    Nice. That's awesome.
     
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    If she directly attacked or insulted you yes, I would remove that and talk to her about that. You are taking generalized boosts personally. Why be so hurt by one person, one poster? Because she is a woman?
     
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