OT "I'm Dealing With A Few Transgender Issues"

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think plenty of groups have changed what society calls them because they don't like the term. I just personally don't like the sound of cis. I could totally see why the trans community wouldn't like that term because of the long history associated with it, and I would fully support if they ever wanted to change it.

    Just as an example though, little people have changed their term multiple times. I know some people refuse to alter what they call them, but overall I can totally understand wanting to change a term if it has a long history.
     
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    I'm not uncomfortable with it. I just don't like the sound of it. Maybe it's just because the first time I saw it used it was being used basically as an insult, but if you gave me a list of 10 different options for the same meaning, I think cis would probably be at the bottom of the list.
     
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    YamTastic I'm Trans Issues

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    What was the insult?
     
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    It was a while back but basically "cis scum"
     
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    YamTastic I'm Trans Issues

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    And why did they say that? What led the conversation to that point?
     
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    I don't' remember. This was years ago. I had never even heard the term "cis" before. I just don't care for the term. Also, it wasn't aimed at me. I was a bystander, which is also part of the reason why I don't remember much else about it.
     
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    YamTastic I'm Trans Issues

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    Well, that's okay. I get called a lot of things I don't like daily, so we have something in common!

    You are cis so I will call you cis if I want, but I promise not to call you scum.
     
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    It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Alot of people would like it to be all or nothing on the other side of things, forcing all transgender athletes to compete against men or to segregate them into their own categories of competition.

    Forcing all transgender athletes to compete against only men, doesn't seem right, and segregating them into their own grouping of completion is hurtful and can be perceived as discriminatory to the transgender community and may well be.

    I don't agree with making laws in opposition to transgendered athletes competing either.

    I haven't dismissed anything. I have neutrally looked at this. One side we have women and men complaining about having to compete against transgender athletes. Transgender athletes have been competing for years. Now that a couple of them have finally won, there are complaints. It does seem like overreaction to me.

    Do transgender athletes have an unfair advantage? Is it costing women scholarships etc, or is just people being butthurt. How much of an affect has it really had to allow transgender athletes to compete with other athletes of their gender?

    This needs more looking into.

    On the other side we have the transgendered athletes. It doesn't seem anyone gives to shits about their place in this. How demoralizing it it is to be rejected like this. They already have to deal with so much. They are putting themselves out there to compete, only to face more rejection because of something that's not their fault.

    Can you see how demoralizing it would be to force someone with a female gender to compete against men. Some are ok with forcing this humiliation on them.
     
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    YamTastic I'm Trans Issues

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    (a grammatical nitpick: transgender, not transgendered, is the correct spelling of the adjective.)
     
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    Texas attorney general notified Austin school district they are breaking the law by holding Pride Week activities.
     
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    Technically he's right. Texas Legislation clearly states any sexual education of any sort is the responsibility of the parents not the school district.

    I don't agree with it but what needs to change is the legislation not that act of celebrating "Pride Week".
    Of course that is my opinion. I'm sure there are those on here who would disagree.
     
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    In other words, children and teens must never be exposed to any ideas their parents don't hold.

    Like Pink Floyd said, we don't need no education.
     
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    So you are saying Pride is just about sex?
     
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    No. That was not included in my comment in any way.
     
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    But the point was made Pride is illegal because of ban on sex education.
     
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    Yeah because it’s a school I guess they would link it to education.
    The point I made though was more about the legislation that was in place. He has a point that it could be considered “illegal”. Of course it’s absolutely outrageous and in my humble opinion stupid but homophobes gonna phobe right?
    So honestly my point was they need to change the legislation.
     
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    Nope. I haven't supported Trans competing in women's divisions since I was made aware of it many years ago. It doesn't make sense to me as a competitor to allow that, and it hasn't been acceptable to any female athlete or coach I've discussed it with.

    I understand it might be tough for the few people it excludes, but many people are excluded from competing in many levels of sports in the name of maintaining the spirit of the competition.

    It honestly makes me sick to see a person who was born with advantages of a man celebrate beating a woman in a physical competition.

    It completely ruins the competition for me. It makes it fake, and I lose any respect for the person celebrating. And I don't understand any competitor who supports it.

    On the other hand, I have the utmost respect for Mack Briggs. Way to fricken go!
     
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    In a school meeting with parents, I was told I would never understand a certain topic because I am a “cis-male”. I told the person who called me that to, “Standby, I’m sorry, but I need to go google what that means.” She got PISSED! I actually had no idea what it meant. I do now.
     
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