Politics Ukraine / Russia

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  1. oldmangrouch

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    Thanks Obama!
     
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    Roman Abramovich CONFIRMS he and two Ukrainian negotiators were 'blinded for several hours and had skin peel off their faces and hands' in suspected poisoning attack after peace talks in Kyiv
    • Roman Abramovich suffered a suspected poisoning on March 3 after attending peace talks between Ukraine and Russia in Kyiv
    • Abramovich, another Russian entrepreneur and Ukrainian MP Rustem Umerov all developed symptoms consistent with poisoning by chemical weapons
    • They all developed symptoms including red eyes and peeling of skin on faces
    • Representatives for Abramovich said he had suffered the reported symptoms but refused to give more details
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cted-POISONING-Ukraine-peace-negotiators.html
     
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    But media ignoring entire speech to focus on one sentence.
     
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    I hope that's exactly what we are trying to do. He's been fucking with Ukraine since 2014 and even before.
     
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    US Oil Companies Set to Reap Up to $126 Billion in Extra Profits Amid War on Ukraine

    "It's high time for Congress to pass a windfall profits tax and prevent the fossil fuel industry from harnessing a war to make billions," said one campaigner.

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...ap-126-billion-extra-profits-amid-war-ukraine

    What most people don't seem to understand is: We simply changed Russian oil oligarchs for American oil oligarchs. Personally, I feel that this is exactly what this war is all about. American oligarchs are now benefiting from the transfer of oil/gas in Europe from Russia to American oil/gas imports. It is literally an American robbery in progress... disguised as a war.
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Screw that.... people should be going to jail. There should be massive fines. That was purely war profiteering and nothing else.
     
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    Thats bullshit...Putin has been slaughtering his neighbors and throwing his dictatorial weight around. I commend Europe if they import more gas & oil. Russia is the fucking thief here, but yet you blame America. Count your blessings man!
     
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    I'm not sure it's war profiteering. We aren't at war and they aren't selling to parties that are at war. They are simply using world events as an excuse to raise prices, same as they always do.

    barfo
     
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    Blessing that both parties are this insanely corrupt?!? No, thanks. I'll count my blessings that, with this level of corruption in both parties here in America, it is a miracle that any of us are still alive though.
     
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    Yet you still don't condemn Putin for being a murdering dictator?
     
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    I have never said that I side with Putin. If people want to take that as taking his side, I can't stop them.

    I see that Putin started a war based on lies, very much the same as G.W. Bush did in Iraq. I see that Putin is committing war crimes in Ukraine, same as America did in Iraq and Afghanistan. So, while I do see the overall differences in the two situations, I don't see the difference in these two situations, in the respect that I have stated.
     
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    No disrespect, but that EV take is nonsense. We are on our 3rd one - and they are now affordable and in some ways more luxurious than ICE cars. It might not be in the suppleness of the leather, but it is in the NVH (noise, vibrations, harshness) and the fact that in some cases you may never have to stop at a gas station and deal with that nonsense - since your car can be full charged every morning.

    Our old Lexus has nicer seats and a beautiful leather and wood steering wheel - but frankly, my wife's Kona Electric feels more luxurious - it is quieter (and the Lexus is not loud), it accelerates like a banshee - and the Kona is really more of an entry level, long range EV - it does not have all the regular luxury things you can get in more upscale EVs.

    A Tesla Model 3 costs the same as a BMW 3 series.

    Your car is an Audi A7, right? A new one starts at $70K, a Lucid Air starts at $77K (before the $7,500 tax credit from the Fed and whatever it is at your state) - so the price is basically the same, the A7 entry place gives you 335BHP and 369ft/lb torque, the entry level Lucid gives you 480BHP and 620 ft/lb torque.

    There is absolutely no reason to purchase an A7 over a Lucid Air that I can come up with reasonably, the price is basically the same - and the Air is faster, quieter, nicer looking (debatable, the interior I think is much nicer, the exterior is questionable) and supposedly much nicer to drive and more sporty.

    Sorry, the future, and for most people the present, is EVs. Time to wrap your head around it.
     
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    That is fucking scary.

    Moving troops away from Kviv could mean a nuke is coming.
     
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    Or chemical weapon.
     
  20. andalusian

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    In 1977 he published an article in the Nation saying the following:

    "We do not pretend to know where the truth lies amidst these sharply conflicting assessments; rather, we again want to emphasize some crucial points. What filters through to the American public is a seriously distorted version of the evidence available, emphasizing alleged Khmer Rouge atrocities and downplaying or ignoring the crucial U.S. role, direct and indirect, in the torment that Cambodia has suffered"

    In 1988, in Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media (his book) he wrote about the response to his article:

    "it will in no way alter the conclusions we have reached on the central question addressed here: how the available facts were selected, modified, or sometimes invented to create a certain image offered to the general population. The answer to this question seems clear, and it is unaffected by whatever may yet be discovered about Cambodia in the future"

    No disrespect - but that is not the writing of someone that accepts that his earlier argument is nonsense - since there was tons of documentation from all over the world of the Khmer Rouge conduct.
     
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